[Bug 15419] Test Data reports should include wine stable versions (i.e. 1.0, 1.2...) and not just recent betas

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Fri Dec 19 11:34:53 CST 2008


http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15419





--- Comment #12 from t3g <milest3g at gmail.com>  2008-12-19 11:34:52 ---
>No. Your metric are highly skewed. Many users are building from source or from
>unofficial/semiofficial repositories, with unstable wine.

Last number I had for Ubuntu was that 10% of the user had wine installed.
That's close to a million (800000 if somebody wants to be pompous), and there's
not many chances they're all building from git or even  touched theyr
/etc/apt/source.list (since even that is considered as hard by most users on
the Ubuntu's forums).

Of course, the numbers are reversed if you only consider those that contribute
to AppDB - but that's what we're here for. However, the majority of users are
running stable releases.

> I just don't think that's a worthy goal, as it would encourage people to stick
> to stable, and never test unstable. When a new stable is released, and their
> app is broken, they'll be surprised, but how could it have been fixed if a bug
> was never filed. 

People that fill test data don't do it for bragging right. If we maintain apps
and test them with each unstable release, it's not because we can't fill test
data for stable ones. Assuming that we'd stop doing so if we could also fill
test data for stable release isn't just pompous, it's insulting.

> When a new stable is released, and their app is broken, they'll be surprised,
> but how could it have been fixed if a bug was never filed. The first thing we
> do when a bug is filed on 1.0.1 is ask them to upgrade to unstable...

It's a different conception of treating our users. Do we force them to be beta
testers for the "greater good", knowing that most won't bother learning to use
bugzilla and fill bug reports, or do we consider them as users and rely on the
ones that would have volunteered to be tester anyway?

> The source is there if someone wants to patch it to always include 1.0.1.

That's oh so nice. However, whoever's going to learn how to do that might as
well learn C, fix all the remaining bugs in wine and be done with.


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