[Bug 10495] Wine should support PulseAudio

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http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10495





--- Comment #222 from Rotbart van Dainig <rotbart_van_dainig at lavabit.com>  2010-02-13 17:50:23 ---
(In reply to comment #217)
> This does not correlate with my experiences doing user support in #winehq.

You are arguing with subjective experience?

And your experiences don't correlate with neither mine, my experiences of
distro-level bug trackers or the ones of either the people here nor the
maintainer.

> There was certainly marked improvement.

Maybe. Maybe not. Was it flawless? Because winepulse is.

> The ball is not currently in my court.

Just remember for when it is.

> There have not been two years worth of attempts at getting winealsa to work
> better with pulse.

That would be just as sad, but unfortunatly, it seems to be true: And that kind
of history makes all the claims that "soon" winealsa / the new sound framework
will work with Pulseaudio look like empty promises - because that's what people
were told all the time.

(In reply to comment #220)
> So please stop spamming about whether or not wine should support a pulseaudio
> driver, because there there is absolutely no point in this. Someone is already
> working on a solution that is far superior to anything you'd come up with in
> this bug report.

See above: That what everyone was told for at least a year now: The great big
rewrite will come and eliminate all problems. We'll believe it when it happens,
and, until then, we'd like to have working sound, thounk you very much.

Of course, if said rewrite comes, dropping all the old driver code for OpenAL,
then all claims that it would be too much hassle to port the old drivers are
moot, too.

> The pulse-related patches to winealsa have gone in much more
> recently.

While winepulse existed and worked for at least one year.

> > Now, here's the technical reason: A native sink is better than a compatibility
> > sink.
> 
> I would thank you not to put words in my mouth [...]

I don't need to. As others pointed out, too, the technical poit (even if it's
hard to swallow):

WINE->PULSE->ALSA >> WINE->ALSA->PULSE->ALSA

> [...] and do not attempt to turn this
thread into a technical discussion on the merits (or lack of) of pulseaudio.

That one, you did all by yourself.

> This is not a certainty. From what I gather, it's app-dependent.

Then it _is_ a certainty that for some apps and games, winealsa will suck and
winepulse will work.

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