Fwd: Re: WINE for PowerPC?

Dustin Navea speeddymon at yahoo.com
Sun Nov 3 15:40:23 CST 2002


--- Igor Izyumin <igor at mlug.missouri.edu> wrote:
> From: Igor Izyumin <igor at mlug.missouri.edu>
> To: Dustin Navea <speeddymon at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: WINE for PowerPC?
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:18:42 -0600
> 
> On Saturday 02 November 2002 07:26 pm, Dustin Navea wrote:
> > --- Adam Ernst <adam1234 at athenet.net> wrote:
> > > I'm sorry if this is off topic or doesn't belong here. I'm not a
> > > developer (at least not in C) so I'll wait a few years while I learn C
> > > before I come back and help you guys. But I was wondering...
> >
> > Ok, I dont want to sound rude, but you should be glad anyone is
> replying...
> > Its not really off-topic as there arent any set topics and it certainly
> > doesnt not belong here.
> >
> > > What are the technical issues with putting WINE on the PowerPC? So
> > > someday we could run WINE with native Windows apps on Linux for PPC or
> > > even (!) the Macintosh? (Mac OS X is Unix based, so...) Is it feasible
> > > to put a x86 emulator in there, so Win32 apps will think they're on a
> > > standard x86 processor?
> >
> > Do you know all of the routines for an x86 processor?  Neither do any of
> us
> > ;).  If we put in x86 emulator in there then we need a hardware emulator
> > also so that it translates the codes from x86 hardware codes to mac ones.
> 
> > And the only hardware emulator I know of (even for x86) is vmware and it
> > royally sux.
> 
> Not really.  It's not THAT difficult to emulate x86 - after all, many 
> emulators (like snes9x, snes9x.com) do the same thing with very 
> poorly-documented consoles.  In fact, there IS an open-source x86 emulator 
> (Bochs, http://bochs.sourceforge.net/).  
> 
> The real challenge is making it efficient - the Super Nintendo runs at
> about 
> 5MHz but requires a 300MHz processor to emulate it with decent speed. 
> Unless 
> you want your 800MHz Mac to perform like a 486, you will probably want a
> more 
> efficient way to emulate it.  This is a big challenge, and Wine quite
> frankly 
> has bigger fish to fry.
> 
> Besides, why would you want to run stuff under wine on the Mac?  Virtual PC
> is 
> much better for most things.  If you really want to go 100% Windows-free,
> you 
> could run Linux inside a Bochs session and run Wine on top of that.  If you
> 
> don't use MacOS on your Mac, just get an x86 PC - it will work better with 
> Linux anyway.
> -- 
> -- Igor


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