OK, so with the normal X11 driver, you can no longer redirect stdout from commandline apps under Wine; the output just vanishes if you try to send it to a file. That's rather unacceptable dain bramage, if you ask me. - Dan -- Dan Kegel http://www.kegel.com http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=78045