WineX relation to Wine
twickline at skybest.com
Fri Nov 21 12:47:37 CST 2003
Gavriel State wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> No, that's not the case - every line of code that we've added into the
> in the WineX tree that is not explicitly under the LGPL is distributed
> under the AFPL. Again, from our license documentation:
I want to first off thank you for your reply.
I'm not sure if you read over this list or not, but if you should read
of my past rants/flames you will see i'm not a very bright to start with..
So I ask for you to have patience with me.
From the above paragraph I see that every line of code you guy's
have added to WineX that is *not* in the list of dll's/components that is
listed under LGPL should be considered as AFPL?
The LGPLed components in the WineX tree are:
> * dlls/avicap32/ (libavicap32.so)
> * dlls/msdmo/ (libmsdmo.so)
> * dlls/quartz/ (libquartz.so)
> * dlls/msacm/winemp3 (libwinemp3.so)
> * dlls/wininet (libwininet.so)
> * dlls/urlmon (liburlmon.so)
> * programs/regsvr32 (libregsvr32.so)
Here is where i'm a bit fuzzy.
You guys dont release any of your code under X11?
but you do or in the past have ask people to licence there code
under the X11 licence? Even tho I was not around when the licence
change came to be.. From what I get from reading WWN and the devel-list list
archives you guys were in favor of a X11 licence. ( ?? ) But now you say
every line of
code you release to wineX that is not explicitly under the LGPL is
under the AFPL licence? ........
So you ask people to licenece there work under X11 but you then re-licence
your changes as AFPL?
In other words if I release my code ... ( well my code is only ugly
hacks :-) )
but if I licence my code under LGPL then someone else releases under X11
then I release under LGPL then the code is in a mangle under both
So in return if I release under X11 then *YOU* release under AFPL then
say I release
under X11 again then you do another AFPL then its in a mangled state as
tit for tat ??
If this is the case as I see it......... I could be wrong,,, as im most
likely at the lower
end of the scale here......
Why should we even take the X11 licence into consideration?
As I see it you will moot it at the first given chance ........
Just as i'm sure you think some developers will moot the X11 licence at
first given chance.......
So why not just licence WineX under LGPL and AFPL and have this mess
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Then you can have a exhaustive list ...........this is this, and that is
Gav, I want you to know I have *NO* ill will against you or your cause.
And I see your position here.. you want to be compensated for your work..
Trust me we all do!!!!!! But your not alone....... As I see it your no
than CodeWeavers ..... Hell take a look at : http://www.frankscorner.org/
If you look at the forums ( http://www.frankscorner.org/forum/ ) section
you will see im a moderator there.
But we tell the public they can install/run most if not all the apps
that CW supports!!!
So if anything your at a advantage to codeweavers when it comes to a app
per game ratio .....
Because we list TG on most games.. And you still have your Copy
Protection code in house......
So first,, as a proud Linux user!
I ask that you reconsider and release your code, changes, modifications
... what ever you may
consider it.......... under a X11, LGPL licence and that you give a list
of dll's, componentes that
are listed as being LGPL, X11...
I'm almost certen if you guy's said Hey....... we want to be paid.. we
have famailies to feed, we want
to pay our bills the same way you want to!!!!!!
So here is a list of DX dlls that were going to list as being
But in the sence of GoodWill and Hospitality we plan to release all
as LGPL/X11 for not only our selves but for the betterment of Linux as a
You see Gav, I coul'd give *SHIT* about Wine or WineX as a single app..
Me myself I look to the future...... when Linux is the Desktop of choice....
I think Wine/WineX/CodeWeavers all three have a role to play in the
Its not that im pregiduse, as I hate eveyone the same!!!
I just think if you were to list the licence of each dll's/component and
say, here is where
we at TG stand...... And we dont expect everyone will fill the way we do
but this but this is life..
Life is a toatle of good and bad and we feel as if we have meet our
why should there be any *ILL* feelings??????
So I ask again if you will send a list of AFPL, LGPL componets,
and any componets under X11?
I hate to say this but I really beleive were at the piont to where we
are at a toatle
split.. I really hope it doesn't go this way......(I really
do)........... So GAV in the end I guess its up to you.......
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