APPDB: Half-Life and Counter-Strike with WINE

[David F. Colwell]

Chris Morgan wrote:

>If you would like to submit a version please do so.  In your case you 
>submitted an entire application that was a duplicate, and when I rejected it 
>the version submission implicitly created when submitting an application was 
>also deleted.  If there was a particular place that was confusing please 
>mention it, we want to ensure that the appdb documentation is as clear as 
>possible.
>
>Do we even need to have the retail version of CS in appdb?  Nearly all CS 
>servers upgrade when new versions come out as bugs and exploits are fixed in 
>older versions.  I don't think we want to list every version that CS has ever 
>released, this means we would have a forum, description and an entry for each 
>CS release?  That seems like a bit much.  Typically we bundle similar 
>versions together.  If you would like to add specific testing results for the 
>retail version I think you should do so in the existing Counter-Strike 
>version entry.  A common method is a table similar to that in the version 
>template where the first column is the version of CS, the second the version 
>of wine and the rest like the normal testing table.
>
>Chris
>
>
>On Monday 09 May 2005 8:53 pm, David F. Colwell wrote:
>  
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>>Hiji wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>--- "David F. Colwell" <dfcolwell at dfcolwell.com>
>>>
>>>wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Hiji et al,
>>>>
>>>>Couldn't find Half-Life or Counter-Strike in the DB
>>>>yet they returned...
>>>>
>>>>Submitted version rejected
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>The version you submitted ( 1.0.0.0) has been
>>>>rejected.This application is already in the
>>>>database.  If you are interested in helping out with
>>>>the howto please sign up to be a maintainer of the
>>>>application.  Thanks.
>>>>We appreciate your help in making the Version
>>>>Database better for all users.
>>>>
>>>>Best regards.
>>>>The AppDB team
>>>>http://www.winehq.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I did my part.  :-)
>>>>
>>>>On Monday 09 May 2005 7:40 pm, Hiji wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>>Any ideas?  (I'm forwarding the message, so, it
>>>>>defaults to showing below my message.  Sorry!) :(
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>--- Chris Morgan <cmorgan at alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I plugged 'half-life' into the search box and got:
>>>>
>>>>http://appdb.winehq.org/search.php?q=half-life
>>>>
>>>>Looks like its working here.  What did you search
>>>>for?
>>>>
>>>>I just added 'halflife' as a keyword to the
>>>>half-life application so searching
>>>>for 'halflife' also returns the appropriate results.
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>I found it too, but I believe the problem was that he
>>>was trying to add a specific version (1.0.0.0), and he
>>>got the error.  The versions I see on there are
>>>1.1.0.8 and 1.1.1.0
>>>
>>>David, can you elaborate for us?
>>>
>>>Hiji
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>      
>>>
>>Roger that.  I have version 1.0.0.0 of CS and submitted it as such.  I
>>entered version "1" of HL having not readily found the version.  After
>>more searching I now find I have version 1.0.0.9  Nevertheless, should
>>the CS have been rejected?  I see the DB now and I probably didn't
>>submit well.  I pasted my original mail to wine-users at winehq.org in the
>>description portion of the form and then got lazy and said "see above"
>>in the following section.
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>>
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My only thoughts are that as time goes by, older, retail, CD, versions 
may be played by more people simply because they have the CD and 
WON/update servers are down.  The games are still  as playable as when 
they were introduced.  In a restricted environment like a LAN one might 
expect less or no cheats/hacks to sour the play of a game like 
Counter-Strike.  Therefore, making it more enjoyable.  An old game 
played by someone for the first time is still a new game to them.
I assumed the DB was expected to be exhaustive.  If not, my apologies.  
My intent on submitting my findings to wine-users at winehq.org was to 
share them with anyone who, like me, dug up an old CD for their kids to 
play.  Since it cost me a couple of hours of futzing, I thought I might 
save others the trouble.  It is my belief that if one person is doing 
something, then a couple of hundred others are too.
It looks like I must become a maintainer to add the version.  By the 
standard listed in 
http://appdb.winehq.org/help/?topic=maintainer_guidelines I do not 
qualify as I don't intend to run the app regularly.  So I hope my post 
to wine-users at winehq.org is sufficient.
Cheers.