progress being made. am about 10-15% the way through a compile, having previously got dcethreads to use pthread-win32 by judicious ripping out of large amounts of code. fortunately, elrond has already win32'd tng, so there is stacks of code in tng's lib/util_sock.c to rip off :) -- -- <a href="http://lkcl.net">http://lkcl.net</a> --