AW: 0.9.17 and other issues

[Roland Kaeser]

Yes, that is noticable - it makes you so angry that you write some
things in a style that could be a bit more polite.
Sorry, wasn't my intention to attack the people. But understand my desperation at this time. I'm just very hardly waiting until all the required apps getting work to migrate a lot of people in the office and at home to linux But every hope from release to release that the time has come to do this was destroyed.

>> All the people I know WANT TO RUN THEIR BUSINESS APPS ON LINUX.

>You seem to be rather limited in the diversity of the people you know
>;-)
No, what I ment was that the people doesn't want to run games but instead their other small tools and toys (which where included in  "Business Apps"


>Just to give a little picture: Your neighbor likes to do gardening and
>such. What you are complaining about would be similar to going over to
>him and complaining that he was setting up a new flower bed while he
>could be fixing your roof. Just think about it a bit.....
Yes, I understand what You mean. But its not just for me (personally) it will help the whole comunity when getting this bugs fixed. I'm just a member of this community which tries their best to promote and support opensource as much as it possible. So I do a lot of my freetime in promoting opensource and developing opensource apps (as Java Programmer). And from my point of view, its also important to bring the people to Linux. And sometimes (specially in this case) I gonna fight for linux (in my sourrounding areas) and doesn't get adequate supply from the programmers front.

>----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----
>Von: Joerg Mayer <jmayer at loplof.de>
>An: Roland Kaeser <roli8200 at yahoo.de>
>Gesendet: Dienstag, den 11. Juli 2006, 13:53:43 Uhr
>Betreff: Re: 0.9.17 and other issues

>On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 10:02:31AM +0000, Roland Kaeser wrote:
>> By all respect of all the hard work the developers make all day.
>> But to see the changes in 0.9.17 makes me really angry.

>Yes, that is noticable - it makes you so angry that you write some
>>things in a style that could be a bit more polite.
>
>> Is everybody developing for the gamers?
>
>No, lots of stuff seems to go into installer/ole improvements as well.
>Please check the commit-list for details.
>
>> Whats the focus of the wine development?
>
>There is no such focus - or there are several of them. It depends who
>you ask:
>- If you ask  the people who do "game development", then you will get the
>  answer "to make games (better) playable". Most/all of them are people
>  who do this in their spare time without payment. From time to time,
>  these people find/fix some non-game-related-bugs. That's how you
>  profit from game development too.
>- If you ask the people being (partly) payed by Codeweavers, then yes,
>  they work application focused. Of course, they work on the
>  applications that Codeweavers supports first, so if you want
>  preferential treatment for your applications, you should talk to
>  Codeweavers and pay them to work on your applications.
>  As a side effect though, currently every msi installer that doesn't
>  work seems to be considered a bug and gets preferential treatment too.
>- Other people working on wine may have other goals (like
>   security/cryptography/webbrowsing).
>
>> All the people I know WANT TO RUN THEIR BUSINESS APPS ON LINUX.
>
>You seem to be rather limited in the diversity of the people you know
>;-)
>
>> WHATS THE FOCUS OF THE WINE DEVELOPMENT????
>
>If you ask 10 developers, you might end up with 11 or more answers.
>
>Again: 3D is being developed by volunteers who do what they want to do.
>They rarely break something outside 3D and occasionally fix/implement
>things outside 3D, so even non-games profit a bit from their work.
>
>Just to give a little picture: Your neighbor likes to do gardening and
>such. What you are complaining about would be similar to going over to
>him and complaining that he was setting up a new flower bed while he
>could be fixing your roof. Just think about it a bit.....
>
>Regards
>         Joerg
>-- 
>Joerg Mayer                                           <jmayer at loplof.de>
>We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that
>works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology.







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