H. Verbeet wrote: > On 14/10/06, Ivan Gyurdiev <ivg231 at gmail.com> wrote: >> Exactly... so why is the refcount 1 *after* GetVertexDeclaration. > Perhaps the declaration in only generated when calling > GetVertexDeclaration(). If you call it twice, does it return the same > pointer? No.. I tried that too. The same pointer is returned.