AW: Already Error while installing MS Office 2003

[Roland Kaeser]

>Are you a software developer of any kind?  This is a professional open
>source product, and we only allow the cleanest code in our tree.  Wine
>is one of the most impressive pieces of software I've ever had the
>chance to work on.  I, and all the other developers of Wine, do not
>want hacks in the code base, and am very thankful they are not
>allowed.  If someone really wants an application to work, they can
>spend time and effort on writing proper fixes for the Wine tree, as we
>all do.

Yes, I'm a software developer and I know from a uncountable amout of projects that perfect and absolute clean code is IMPOSSIBLE. Its always a calculation between the efforts and the expected results. Yes, You can write absolute (as far as this is generally possible) code but then wine will be arrive version 1.0 in 2020. Just think about the goal, users don't interst the coding quality of the sourcecode, they just want to run their windows apps on linux. I know a lot of people where have no idea about opensource. They just wan't to run their apps. And they wan't do it asap not after waiting 10 years. Look for all the alternate opensource project for properitary software, such as gimp,scribus,inkscape,openoffice,firefox,kdenlive,cinelerra,etc. Soon, the time will come where is no longer need for wine because the opensource apps are much better and more performant than actually the windows apps are. Don't You think wine (version 1.0) should be finished before this time?

Roland


>----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----
>Von: James Hawkins <truiken at gmail.com>
>An: Roland Kaeser <roli8200 at yahoo.de>
>CC: Jim White <jim at pagesmiths.com>; wine-devel at winehq.com
>Gesendet: Samstag, den 16. September 2006, 09:47:27 Uhr
>Betreff: Re: Already Error while installing MS Office 2003
>
>On 9/15/06, Roland Kaeser <roli8200 at yahoo.de> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>> >Codeweavers version of Wine has changes that Alexandre deems
>> >unacceptable for the "clean" WineHQ tree.
>>
>> If this is that way, it would be real a horror. Why are code patches which
>> allows a huge major app (key application) to run on linux "unacceptable"
>> (From point of view of the MS users). Do we here make trench warfares?  Or
>> are there quality conceivabilities which are completely unrealistic?
>> Shouldn't we not see the major goal of wine? To run windows apps on linux?
>> Not to have a few lines code a bit better quality etc. I think we don't have
>> the choice to reject code. Be very very thankful for each line which is
>> checked in!! I think some responsible persons are to deep in the code.  They
>> are looking just into the code but can't see the benefit of the code for the
>> wine project itself. Why don't just accept the code? There is enough time
>> later to make it more "beautiful" or correct it to a better quality. But for
>> the moment, some of the code directly allows important apps to work.
>>
>
>Are you a software developer of any kind?  This is a professional open
>source product, and we only allow the cleanest code in our tree.  Wine
>is one of the most impressive pieces of software I've ever had the
>chance to work on.  I, and all the other developers of Wine, do not
>want hacks in the code base, and am very thankful they are not
>allowed.  If someone really wants an application to work, they can
>spend time and effort on writing proper fixes for the Wine tree, as we
>all do.
>
>-- 
>James Hawkins




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