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[Zachary Goldberg]

Do you feel apps get updated enough that there are enough instances of
an app being reviewed more than once per release to change these
results?


On Dec 5, 2007 6:52 PM, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes
<alex at thehandofagony.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 06 December 2007 00:44:03 Zachary Goldberg wrote:
> > Here are the updated results for when we only look at updates from App
> > Maintainers.  It also just so happens that that age of empires case
> > you mentioned is in fact by a maintainer.  Please respond and leave
> > your opinion as to which is more worthwhile in the WWN.  Perhaps i'll
> > put both in different sections.
> >
>
> The maintainer ratings are a field in the appVersions table, but they are not
> as frequently updated as test results.
>
> An option might be to take the highest rating from each Wine version from the
> test results and compare them.  That would avoid many errors, but would still
> not help in cases where apps are over-rated, such as with Age of Empires II.
>
>
> Alexander
>
>
> > (replaced dates with wine versions)
> > Age of Empires II The Age of Kings: 2.x went from Silver (0.9.49) to
> > Gold (0.9.50)
> > TTPlayer 5.0.1 went from Silver (0.9.48) to Gold (0.9.50)
> > Sid Meier's Civilization IV Civilization IV Beyond The Sword (3.13)
> > went from Bronze (0.9.48) to Silver (0.9.50)
> > Original War 1.08 went from Garbage (0.9.49) to Bronze (0.9.49)
> > Call of Duty United Offensive: 1.5 went from Gold (0.9.34) to Platinum
> > (0.9.48) Gothic 1.0x went from Bronze (0.9.48) to Garbage (0.9.50)
> > Ys origin 1.1.0.0 - Adol Version went from Bronze (0.9.40) to Silver
> > (0.9.49) Serif PhotoPlus PhotoPlus 11 went from Garbage (0.9.49) to Gold
> > (0.9.50)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 5, 2007 6:18 PM, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes
> >
> > <alex at thehandofagony.com> wrote:
> > > The problem of using test results as background for this is that they are
> > > very dependent on the experience of each user. For instance some might be
> > > unable to run a game because they have execshield or other stuff that
> > > mess up Wine, or simply because they are not following the how-to
> > > instructions.
> > >
> > > Take the Age of Empires II test report, for instance.  The user has rated
> > > it Gold even though the text on the main menu is displayed black instead
> > > of white (on a dark background), and the game is a bit slow even on a
> > > modern computer.
> > >
> > >
> > > The alternative is to use the maintainer ratings, which are generally
> > > more correct but updated far less frequently.
> > >
> > >
> > > Alexander N. Sørnes
> > >
> > > On Thursday 06 December 2007 00:02:36 Zachary Goldberg wrote:
> > > > I've finished coding a script which runs the necessary query to
> > > > generate data (I download a database backup and run the queries on my
> > > > local machine.).  As a sampling (if anybody feels like tripple
> > > > checking that the data is correct) of "Upgrades" (and some downgrades)
> > > > from 11-27-2007 to 12-04-2007:
> > > >
> > > > Chromadrome 2 - Demo 1.0 (18165)  went from Garbage (2007-11-25
> > > > 01:25:25) to Platinum (2007-12-02 11:50:43)
> > > > Age of Empires II The Age of Kings: 2.x (18083)  went from Silver
> > > > (2007-11-15 15:58:30) to Gold (2007-11-30 16:30:18)
> > > > Dreamweaver MX (18123)  went from Silver (2007-07-22 03:17:03) to
> > > > Garbage (2007-12-01 17:41:49)
> > > > Call of Duty United Offensive: 1.5 (18163)  went from Gold (2007-04-06
> > > > 07:46:23) to Platinum (2007-12-02 11:12:50)
> > > > Crysis Single player demo (18094)  went from Garbage (2007-11-06
> > > > 12:49:00) to Bronze (2007-12-01 03:25:13)
> > > > Eschalon Book I Demo Demo (18029)  went from Garbage (2007-11-22
> > > > 02:37:49) to Platinum (2007-11-29 03:11:20)
> > > > Gothic 1.0x (18154)  went from Bronze (2007-11-09 11:48:03) to Garbage
> > > > (2007-12-02 09:21:57)
> > > > Proteus 7.2 (18050)  went from Garbage (2007-11-18 07:08:51) to Silver
> > > > (2007-11-29 22:20:27)
> > > > Ys origin 1.1.0.0 - Adol Version (18060)  went from Bronze (2007-07-13
> > > > 00:20:48) to Silver (2007-11-30 01:38:14)
> > > > Mp3tag v2.39 (17994)  went from Platinum (2007-10-20 11:01:13) to Gold
> > > > (2007-11-27 15:44:51)
> > > > Crayon Release 1 (17988)  went from Gold (2007-11-17 13:34:11) to
> > > > Platinum (2007-11-27 11:30:05)
> > > > Silencer 1.10.1 (18087)  went from Silver (2007-11-16 15:04:45) to
> > > > Platinum (2007-11-30 17:22:00)
> > > > .NET Framework 2.0 (18042)  went from Garbage (2007-11-29 10:07:26) to
> > > > Platinum (2007-11-30 11:35:57)
> > > > Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield 1.60 (18057)  went from
> > > > Garbage (2007-10-17 11:44:55) to Bronze (2007-11-29 21:43:19)
> > > > Safari 3.x Public Beta (18196)  went from Garbage (2007-11-21
> > > > 03:21:32) to Bronze (2007-12-03 10:03:37)
> > > > TTPlayer 5.0.1 (18191)  went from Silver (2007-11-07 05:24:39) to Gold
> > > > (2007-12-03 08:43:31)
> > > > Sid Meier's Civilization IV Civilization IV Beyond The Sword (3.13)
> > > > (18108)  went from Bronze (2007-11-07 06:34:47) to Silver (2007-12-01
> > > > 10:08:49)
> > > > Original War 1.08 (18041)  went from Garbage (2007-11-18 19:59:13) to
> > > > Bronze (2007-11-29 09:31:33)
> > > > Half-Life 2 Half-Life: Source (17993)  went from Garbage (2007-11-05
> > > > 14:08:10) to Platinum (2007-11-27 13:49:48)
> > > > Serif PhotoPlus PhotoPlus 11 (18201)  went from Garbage (2007-11-17
> > > > 17:02:33) to Gold (2007-12-03 12:40:39)
> > > > MapSource 6.11.5 (18021)  went from Silver (2007-10-17 05:19:10) to
> > > > Gold (2007-11-28 18:11:37)
> > > > Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Demo (18143)  went from Garbage
> > > > (2007-11-16 11:59:30) to Silver (2007-12-02 06:40:04)
> > > > SimCity 4 1.1 638 Rush Hour (18148)  went from Gold (2007-11-25
> > > > 14:58:28) to Bronze (2007-12-02 07:40:50)
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 5, 2007 5:50 PM, Ben Hodgetts (Enverex) <ben at atomnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
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> > > > > Possibly, but on the other hand it could just as easily become
> > > > > "Garbage" in the next release of Wine ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > (sorry, I already sent this once at the start of the day but emailed
> > > > > it directly to the previous person rather than back to the list)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ben H.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tomas Zijdemans wrote:
> > > > > > This is great :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would it be a good idea to include major news from the appDB?
> > > > > > Ex: "Photoshop cs2 has now reached Gold status"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think this would be very inspiring to users.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tomas
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Triton wrote:
> > > > > >> On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 18:23:10 -0500
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> "Zachary Goldberg" <zgs at seas.upenn.edu> wrote:
> > > > > >>> Kai,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> It was my pleasure :).  Keep the interesting wine discussion/news
> > > > > >>> coming and I'll keep writing WWNs.  I'll also make note to
> > > > > >>> highlight in particular GSoC developments as they happen.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> --Zach
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hi everyone, I've been following the mailing lists for some time
> > > > > >> now, this is my first post. OK, presentation done...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I also had to thank you bring to life the WWN, it's a great
> > > > > >> resource for those who don't actively follow the development
> > > > > >> discussions.
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Zachary Goldberg
Computer Science & Engineering
Electrical Captain of Penn Electric Race Team
School of Engineering at the University of Pennsylvania