appdb issue: can't search for apps platinum on 1.0.x!

Branan Riley branan at gmail.com
Fri Feb 27 15:52:50 CST 2009


On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Ben Klein <shacklein at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2009/2/28 Dan Kegel <dank at kegel.com>:
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Ben Klein <shacklein at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 2009/2/26 Dan Kegel <dank at kegel.com>:
> >>> Our currently released version is 1.0, but the appdb's
> >>> browse feature acts as if that version no longer exists.
> >>> This will seriously confuse newcomers who are using
> >>> the 1.0.1 version (e.g. anybody who installs a fresh
> >>> copy of Ubuntu!).
> >>
> >> Someone mentioned on another thread (or possibly on IRC, I don't
> >> recall) that 1.0-series is too old to be of concern to us. We don't
> >> want test data for 1.0.x; we don't want bug reports for 1.0.x unless
> >> they're still apparent in the development version. Development has
> >> stopped on 1.0.x.
> >
> > That's a fine attitude from the developer's point of view,
> > but that means that Wine *doesn't care* about Ubuntu
> > users who expect to be able to use Wine by doing
> > "add/remove" in the system menu.
> >
> > And I think we do care.
>
> No more than any other distro, to be honest.
>
> > Another way around this, as Scott Ritchie pointed out, is
> > to arrange for what's in Ubuntu to be less stale.  However,
> > there are only two ways to do that: either do a stable
> > release more often (which is difficult, and which Alexandre
> > doesn't seem inclined to do), or get Ubuntu to accept an
> > unstable snapshot into their stable repository (which I think
> > they are not inclined to do).
>
> Maybe someone should tell them that 1.0.1 is "broken" compared to
> latest development release. This isn't untrue - 1.1.15 has better
> success with a lot of apps.
>
> Basically, someone should tell them that Wine's "stable" branch is
> just a code freeze, and has nothing to do with crash-resistant
> stability.
>
> > Yet another way to show that we care about Ubuntu
> > users would be to make it drop-dead simple for
> > the average user to add the Wine repository and get
> > the latest wine.  The current download instructions are
> > really too complicated.  We need instructions that are
> > no more complicated than
> >
> >  First:
> >   Click *here* to add WineHQ's repository
> >
> >  Then:
> >   Do Applications / 'Add / Remove', and choose Wine
>
> The instructions were like this at one point: download this script,
> run it, go to Add/Remove. Again, I think it's unproductive to hide
> information from the users. At least with the current instructions
> they can see *exactly* what's going on, and they don't have to worry
> about manual editing or the user-unfriendly command-line ...
>
> I'd also think the average user might be sceptical of an all-in-one
> script that changes the configuration of their system. "Why is this
> thing asking for my password? What is it doing? Can I really trust
> it?" etc. etc.


Anyone coming from Vista would be used to UAC for program installs...
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