Wiki challenge question on user account creation

Ben Klein shacklein at gmail.com
Wed Mar 11 07:49:11 CDT 2009


2009/3/11 King InuYasha <ngompa13 at gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Ben Klein <shacklein at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 2009/3/11 King InuYasha <ngompa13 at gmail.com>:
>> > Why are we using Moin anyways? I know Fedora used to use Moin and they
>> > moved
>> > off of it for their wiki, and I honestly think that perhaps WineHQ needs
>> > to
>> > as well.
>>
>> If you're going to argue for a complete replacement of the Wiki
>> system, you'll have to provide better support than "Fedora dumped
>> Moin".
>
> I didn't want to provide reasons to dump it unless I know why we ARE using
> it so I can provide better counterarguments. Just showing up with arguments
> for another wiki based system without knowing why Moin is chosen does not
> paint me in worse light than I already am ;)
> It makes me seem belligerent.

Does what we have now work? Yes. Is there any reason why we should
consider moving from Moin to some other Wiki system? Your turn to
answer.

2009/3/11 King InuYasha <ngompa13 at gmail.com>:
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:46 AM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2009/3/5 King InuYasha <ngompa13 at gmail.com>:
>> > A wiki shouldn't have users creating accounts every day, that is a bad
>> > indicator.
>>
>> It is difficult to understand the thinking behind such a statement
>> unless you are literally aiming to close a project to outside
>> participation.
>
> Sorry, I should have completed my thought. If you can justify users creating
> accounts every day and adding real content to the wiki, then that is fine.
> But in most cases, when wikis have lots of users creating accounts every
> day, generally some serious spamming is going on or is about to go on. Now,
> WineHQ is a high-activity site, so there is some justification for having
> lots of users, but take care to use basic precautions when having users
> created. My two favorite methods of ensuring users are actually real ones
> are email confirm and CAPTCHA, usually a combination of the two. If you
> still see similarly high levels of user creation and real content is being
> added, then its ok. However, if you use an old version of any web content
> software, then the benefits may be negated by the fact that it is possible
> that the wiki engine had already been compromised.

Number of new users is not necessarily proportional to number of new
spammers. Do we actually have a problem with spam on the Wiki?



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