Severity levels

Ben Klein shacklein at gmail.com
Mon May 11 07:36:24 CDT 2009


2009/5/11 Nicklas Börjesson <Nicklas.Borjesson at ws.se>:
> From almost the first response, the tone was quite condescending

No.

> and no one even considered if my ideas had any actual merit at
> all before slamming them completely.

Yes they did. You ignored their just criticism.

> Also, because of this, the
> conversation was needlessly prolonged, to the obvious annoyance
> of all.

And the fact that you refuse to acknowledge critical responses.

> This also applied to perfectly valid comments i
> made in the AppDB.

For example ...?

> I haven't experienced such behaviour
> in an open source project for years. And I have, believe it
> or not, both participated in and, yes, managed a few.

Ever managed a project as big as Wine? In terms of number of
developers, or sheer lines of code?

> I would say that no matter how annoying I may have been to this
> thread, this is extremely counterproductive.
> In communities like this, where most people are involved for
> other reasons than money, it is even more important to treat
> others with respect.

Agreed. However, you have shown little respect for the people on this
thread who have been critical of your suggestions. You believe you are
right - there's nothing wrong with that - but your suggestion is
violently different from what is currently being done - which is a
system set up by the Wine developers for the Wine developers, and is
attuned to what the Wine developers want and need.

> I pride myself with always trying to keep a professional
> attitude in my communications.

If professionalism means never giving up, even when it has been
*explained* to you why your idea won't work in practice, then you
succeeded.

> Not only with customers or management, but also my peers.
> I would like some of the participants of this thread to consider
> the damage they do to the wine project when they don't.
> Creating technology isn't all about technology.

One thread on the mailing list doesn't make the whole project (though
I do see your point). However, it cuts both ways. You complain that no
one has paid attention to your fantastically brilliant idea (when they
have, they just don't like it); perhaps your idea isn't as brilliant
as you think?

You have to treat valid critical response with the same respect as
valid positive response.



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