To translate 'Program Files' or not to translate?
Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)
ngompa13 at gmail.com
Tue Jan 17 08:59:02 CST 2012
Or you could do the other way around. More programs expect the English path
name than translated ones. Honestly, translating path names is a recipe for
On Jan 17, 2012 8:25 AM, "Jerome Leclanche" <adys.wh at gmail.com> wrote:
> We could translate the path and setup an English symlink automatically if
> J. Leclanche
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Francois Gouget <fgouget at free.fr> wrote:
>> That is the question!
>> We have a bunch of shell paths to translate in shell32.rc. However,
>> based on my French Windows VMs and computers I believe a number of them
>> should not be translated:
>> * As far as I can tell 'Program Files' is never translated.
>> * Same thing for 'SendTo' and 'Recent'.
>> * 'Application Data' appears to be translated in NT4 but not on Windows
>> 2000 and greater.
>> Generally speaking translating a path causes all sorts of trouble
>> with broken applications. For instance one regularly ends up with a
>> 'Common Files' folder as well as the French 'Fichiers Communs' one, even
>> on a clean Windows install!
>> Looking at Windows 2000 and greater it seems that Microsoft first
>> decided to only translate the folders most visible to the user. That
>> would explain why 'Application Data', 'Local Settings' and their ilk are
>> not translated.
>> But the very latest fashion (e.g. Windows 7), appears to be to never
>> translate the actual on-disk folder name and use 'desktop.ini' files to
>> get a localized name in the GUI. So for instance on Windows 7 the
>> 'Program Files' folder is called that way on disk but it appears as
>> 'Programmes' in Windows Explorer because of the desktop.ini file (as an
>> anecdote 'Program Files (x86)' has no 'desktop.ini' file and thus is not
>> translated in Explorer. What a mess!).
>> So what do we want to do?
>> The patch below marks the paths that are not meant to be translated as
>> such to reduce the translators burden and avoid mistakes. Some paths mix
>> parts that need to be translated with other that shouldn't. Given the
>> CSIDL_Data structure I'm not sure that can be avoided but I'll be happy
>> with any patch that avoids that. In the meantime I use the message
>> context to give instructions to the translator.
>> Does this make sense? Any better solution?
>> diff --git a/dlls/shell32/shell32.rc b/dlls/shell32/shell32.rc
>> index 92d9d72..3aaa0f2 100644
>> --- a/dlls/shell32/shell32.rc
>> +++ b/dlls/shell32/shell32.rc
>> @@ -200,31 +200,31 @@ the folder?"
>> IDS_PERSONAL "My Documents"
>> IDS_FAVORITES "Favorites"
>> IDS_STARTUP "Start Menu\\Programs\\StartUp"
>> - IDS_RECENT "Recent"
>> - IDS_SENDTO "SendTo"
>> + IDS_RECENT "#msgctxt#do not translate#Recent"
>> + IDS_SENDTO "#msgctxt#do not translate#SendTo"
>> IDS_STARTMENU "Start Menu"
>> IDS_MYMUSIC "My Music"
>> IDS_MYVIDEO "My Videos"
>> IDS_DESKTOPDIRECTORY "#msgctxt#directory#Desktop"
>> IDS_NETHOOD "NetHood"
>> IDS_TEMPLATES "Templates"
>> - IDS_APPDATA "Application Data"
>> + IDS_APPDATA "#msgctxt#do not
>> translate#Application Data"
>> IDS_PRINTHOOD "PrintHood"
>> - IDS_LOCAL_APPDATA "Local Settings\\Application Data"
>> - IDS_INTERNET_CACHE "Local Settings\\Temporary Internet
>> - IDS_COOKIES "Cookies"
>> - IDS_HISTORY "Local Settings\\History"
>> - IDS_PROGRAM_FILES "Program Files"
>> - IDS_PROGRAM_FILESX86 "Program Files (x86)"
>> + IDS_LOCAL_APPDATA "#msgctxt#do not translate#Local
>> Settings\\Application Data"
>> + IDS_INTERNET_CACHE "#msgctxt#do not translate#Local
>> Settings\\Temporary Internet Files"
>> + IDS_COOKIES "#msgctxt#do not translate#Cookies"
>> + IDS_HISTORY "#msgctxt#do not translate 'Local
>> Settings'#Local Settings\\History"
>> + IDS_PROGRAM_FILES "#msgctxt#do not translate#Program
>> + IDS_PROGRAM_FILESX86 "#msgctxt#do not translate#Program
>> Files (x86)"
>> IDS_MYPICTURES "My Pictures"
>> - IDS_PROGRAM_FILES_COMMON "Program Files\\Common Files"
>> - IDS_PROGRAM_FILES_COMMONX86 "Program Files (x86)\\Common Files"
>> + IDS_PROGRAM_FILES_COMMON "#msgctxt#do not translate 'Program
>> Files'#Program Files\\Common Files"
>> + IDS_PROGRAM_FILES_COMMONX86 "#msgctxt#do not translate 'Program
>> Files (x86)'#Program Files (x86)\\Common Files"
>> IDS_COMMON_DOCUMENTS "Documents"
>> IDS_ADMINTOOLS "Start Menu\\Programs\\Administrative
>> IDS_COMMON_MUSIC "Music"
>> IDS_COMMON_PICTURES "Pictures"
>> IDS_COMMON_VIDEO "Videos"
>> - IDS_CDBURN_AREA "Local Settings\\Application
>> Data\\Microsoft\\CD Burning"
>> + IDS_CDBURN_AREA "#msgctxt#do not translate#Local
>> Settings\\Application Data\\Microsoft\\CD Burning"
>> IDS_CONTACTS "Contacts"
>> IDS_LINKS "Links"
>> IDS_PHOTO_ALBUMS "Pictures\\Slide Shows"
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