On 3/21/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Vitaliy Margolen</b> <<a href="mailto:wine-devel@kievinfo.com">wine-devel@kievinfo.com</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 8:38:48 AM, Tom Spear wrote:<br>> On 3/21/06, Robert Reif <<a href="mailto:reif@earthlink.net">reif@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:Tom Spear (Dustin Booker, Dustin Navea) wrote:<br><br>>> Jesse Allen wrote:
<br>>><br>>>> On 3/20/06, Mike McCormack <<a href="mailto:mike@codeweavers.com">mike@codeweavers.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>> Dimi Paun wrote:<br>>>>>
<br>>>>><br>>>>>> On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 22:28 -0600, Tom Spear (Dustin Booker, Dustin<br>>>>>> Navea) wrote:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>>
<br>>>>>>> clicking on the audio tab to check out bug 4051 first? Please!<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> How about we fix the problem instead? :)<br>>>>>>
<br>>>>><br>>>>> The best way to fix it is probably to rearrange the code so that the<br>>>>> Audio tab shows, then there's a [Detect] button that the user can click<br>>>>> to run the autodetect code that might
crash.At least then the user<br>>>>> can<br>>>>> set their Wine Audio settings manually.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Mike<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>
>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> This is not enough, as when I click the audio tab, it will lock up in<br>>>> the kernel.I already identified where it happens and patch the<br>>>> kernel
myself.I told the ALSA devs, but they haven't looked at why<br>>>> certain register usage causes a lockup.So it remains in the stable<br>>>> kernel who knows who else hits it.<br>>>><br>>>> Jesse
<br>>>><br>>>><br>>><br>>> Which is why I agree with the ideas from Mike and Dimi AND Segin..<br>>> Why not put an autodetect button, have the exception handler catch the<br>>> crash if arts decides to die, and then still have a popup dialog for
<br>>> when arts is manually selected that tells users it is buggy and not<br>>> recommended to use?That doesn't fix your specific problem Jesse, I<br>>> know, but at least it keeps winecfg open when you click on the audio tab.
<br>>><br>>> Tom<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>> The reason I added the probe of all drivers in winecfg was so that the<br>> broken and marginal drivers would get used and hopefully fixed.Moving
<br>> the problem will just create different bugs: [BUG xxx] winecfg crashes<br>> when autodetect button pressed or [BUG yyy] winecfg crashes when driver<br>> xyz selected.<br><br><br><br><br><br>> Yes, and I agree that that is a good idea, which is why I asked
<br>> about putting a known issues page somewhere where a lot of users will<br>> see it. It wouldnt just have to be used for the issue mentioned<br>> above. It could be done for anything that is frequently reported. I'm
<br>> going to go ahead and get started on putting it in tonight. Since it<br>> will be in the wiki, as the issues are fixed, they can be removed, and<br>> as other issues become more frequently reported, they can be added. I
<br>> think it will be a good supplement to bugzilla and the appdb, as more<br>> people check out wiki's (as well as README's) than do the appdb, and so<br>> therefore they will see that the issue is already reported, and can
<br>> find out what bug # it is instead of filing a duplicate bug. It also<br>> helps cut down on the number of bug submissions in the comments of the<br>> appdb..<br><br>I sure hope all users will go look at this page first. But some how I
<br>don't think they will. When we getting _exact_ duplicates with the same<br>summary and almost identical comments. I don't think users will bother to<br>look anywhere else.<br><br>But that will add extra work on our side to keep this list in synch. On
<br>top of the usual stuff that we already do.<br><br>Vitaliy.<br><br><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>It wouldnt take much extra time outta my day to do it. 5 mins at max and only once I notice something is being reported rather frequently. I assume that these people who are reporting identical duplicates read some of the dodcumentation though, because otherwise they probably wouldn't have even known about winecfg.
<br><br>Tom<br>