<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">>For the *weekly* application list, who is going to compile it? Wine is<br>>not Microsoft, therefore they do not have access to something along<br>>the lines of Microsoft's Compatibility Lab (and I think not even<br>>Microsoft itself could release this weekly list).<br><br>Eventually we could talk to the application maintainers (as my self) to provide a weekly state (via mail ev.) of their maintaned app. Regarding to the application rating in the appdb. Just list all the apps with a gold state. It also whold give a good overview for which apps wine is currently ready and it whould also be a good monitor of regression issues.<br><br>Roland<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">>-----
Urspr�ngliche Mail ----<br>>Von: Stephen Eilert <spedrosa@gmail.com><br>>An: Roland Kaeser <roli8200@yahoo.de><br>>CC: wine-devel@winehq.com<br>>Gesendet: Samstag, den 16. September 2006, 20:11:24 Uhr<br>>Betreff: Re: AW: Already Error while installing MS Office 2003<br><br><div>>I like the deadline idea, but I do think they've got this already,<br>>just not in terms of working applications, but subsystems.<br><br>>For the *weekly* application list, who is going to compile it? Wine is<br>>not Microsoft, therefore they do not have access to something along<br>>the lines of Microsoft's Compatibility Lab (and I think not even<br>>Microsoft itself could release this weekly list).<br><br>>Furthermore, applications have to be legally purchased to be tested,<br>>as far as I know. I'm not a [wine]developer, but I think you have<br>>absolutely no idea of the amount of effort you are talking about.<br>><br>>There is Wine
Application Database. I've contributed one entry myself.<br>>Not much, I know, but at least it is a start.<br>><br>><br>><br>>Stephen<br>><br>><br>><br>>On 9/16/06, Roland Kaeser <roli8200@yahoo.de> wrote:<br>>><br>>><br>>> >You want stable software, don't you?<br>>> Yes but not for the price of developing 10 years for a software.<br>>><br>>><br>>> >And break other Applications.<br>>> Not urgently<br>>><br>>> Hey guys can't anybody see the reason? The wine project (or the finish of<br>>> itself) could bring linux the breakthrough. I know a lot of people who asks<br>> >as first question: Is this or the other app working on linux? Then I will<br>> >think about a migration.<br>>><br>>> Yes, faster development is paid by a less of stability. But is wine<br>>> currently stable? By many tests with windows apps could I recognize that
it<br>>> is not ever!<br>>><br>>> We should make a weekly public list of currently working applications (out<br>>> of the box). I strongly think this is the measurement of the development<br>>> progress of wine. This is is also the only thing users are interested in! So<br>>> if the developers has a huge effort to develop things in wine but the count<br>>> of working apps is not increasing over the time so its a strong indicator<br>>> that something goes wrong. Think about commercial software dev projects they<br>>> have milestones and deadlines and they have to fulfil it. Why not making<br>>> hard milestones and a hard deadline which the project itself can measure<br>>> against it . Lets say the deadline of a version 1.0 is end of next year<br>>> (2008-01-01). So if everybody has this deadline in brain, it meight make the<br>>> whole thing a bit more efficient. Its easier to make hard
priority<br>>> decisions.<br>>><br>>> Roland<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> >----- Urspr�ngliche Mail ----<br>>> >Von: Detlef Riekenberg <wine.dev@web.de><br>>><br>>> >An: Roland Kaeser <roli8200@yahoo.de><br>>> >CC: Jim White <jim@pagesmiths.com>; wine-devel@winehq.com<br>>> >Gesendet: Samstag, den 16. September 2006, 19:16:34 Uhr<br>>> >Betreff: Re: AW: Already Error while installing MS Office 2003<br>>><br>>> ><br>>> >On Sa, 2006-09-16 at 06:34 +0000, Roland Kaeser wrote:<br>>> >> Why don't just accept the code?<br>>> >You want stable software, don't you?<br>>> ><br>>> >> There is enough time later to make it more "beautiful" or correct it<br>>> >> to a better quality.<br>>> >Who will do it later?<br>>> >Nobody!<br>>> ><br>>> >> But for the moment,
some of the code directly allows important apps to<br>>> >> work.<br>>> ><br>>> >And break other Applications.<br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> >--<br>>> ><br>>> >By by ... Detlef<br>>><br></div></div></div></div></body></html>