[Wine] Re: [AppDB] modify installs and runs fields

Jason Weisberger jbdubbs at gmail.com
Tue Feb 7 18:46:12 CST 2006


These new definitions are the right idea, obviously they'd need to be
refined a bit, but it's the right direction.  Perhaps we could actually have
the user fill out a little survey to automatically give a rating.  For
instance, if it installs, runs perfectly, doesn't require dll overrides,
give it platinum without even giving the user a choice.  Just use radio
selections.

Full support from this side of the table either way it goes.

On 2/7/06, "Alexander N. Sørnes" <alex at thehandofagony.com> wrote:
>
> Tony Lambregts skrev:
>
> > Alexander N. Sørnes wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Tony Lambregts skrev:
> >>
> >>> Mike McCormack wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Actually it appears other share my altered sense of reality.
> >>>>
> >>>> World Of Warcraft 1.3.0  is the top ranking "Gold" application, yet
> >>>> it requires mfc42, msvcp60.dll and possibly some patches to run.
> >>>>
> >>>> MS Money is also in the Gold list and requires DCOM95 and IE6.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you really sure people understand what your definition of Gold
> is?
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>> Crap!!!
> >>>
> >>> Well http://appdb.winehq.org/help/?topic=maintainer_ratings spells
> >>> it out that gold is just that.
> >>>
> >>> An application can be rated as Gold if it installs and runs "out of
> >>> the box".
> >>>
> >>> Some maintainers may have a distorted or over optimistic opinion of
> >>> their application. So we need to clean that up and change these
> >>> "False Gold" applications to "Silver"
> >>>
> >>> If anyone else knows of any other "False Gold" applications please
> >>> let us know.  appdb at winehq.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Can we not add another rank for the out-of-the-box-running
> >> applications?  Most people will be interested in how well an
> >> application can be made to run, and will not care if that means
> >> adding a single DLL override, especially if the DLL is installed
> >> together with the application.
> >> Leaving just two levels to tell how well an application runs does not
> >> give a good overview; there are for example many games that work
> >> flawlessly in single-player mode, but not at all in multi-player
> >> mode; and some require a no-CD crack.
> >>
> >>
> > Well as I've said before rating system sucks by definition. Anyway
> > these are the current definitions for the ratings.
> >
> > * Gold - An application can be rated as Gold if it installs and runs
> > "out of the box"
> >
> > * Silver - If an application needs DLL overrides (native DLL's from a
> > Windows installation) to install and run but runs flawlessly
> > otherwise, then it can be rated as silver. There should be an
> > accompanying "How-To" written to allow users to get this application
> > to run.
> >
> > * Bronze - Bronze Applications may have bugs in them and require DLL
> > overrides. If the program can be used as it was intended but is
> > missing features then the can be rated as Bronze.
> >
> > * Garbage - An app gets this rating if it can not be used for the
> > purpose it was designed. There should be at least one bug report in
> > bugzilla if an app gets this rating.
> >
> >   So lets say that we add another level and call it "platinum" and we
> > reserve it for "Works out of box", what would you gain?  Gold becomes
> > Platinum,  Silver becomes Gold and ... ???
> >
> > --
> >
> > Tony Lambregts
> >
> Then we would have
>
> * Platinum: Application works flawlessly out-of-the-box
>
> * Gold: Application works flawlessly with some DLL overrides or other
> settings, crack etc.
>
> * Silver: Application works excellently for 'normal' use; a game works
> fine in single-player but not in multi-player, Windows Media Player
> works fine as a plug-in and stand-alone player, but can't handle DRM etc.
>
> * Bronze: Application works, but it has some issues, even for normal
> use; a game may not redraw properly or display fonts in wrong colours,
> be a much slower than it should etc.
>
> * Garbage: Application doesn't start, or starts but has so many errors
> that it is nearly impossible to use it
>
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