[Wine] Re: wine-0.9.15 & winetools problems.

[Derek McGowan]

Hi All ...

  I've been following this thread, and it seems to have gotten a little heated 
at times.

   The only point I'd like to make before stating my experience with IE6 and 
Wine is this ...

   Linux is not Windows, Wine is not Windows, Users of Windows who have no 
experience in DOS(let alone *nix), will have a heck of a time trying to 
configure wine to function how they are experienced to having Windows 
function.   I am not new to Linux, Wine, Windows OR computers in general, and 
I'm still having a heck of a time ... as Mr. T would say (and now I'm dating 
myself) "I pity da fool".   Before flying off the handle, or getting upset 
because something doesn't work, or isn't documented to our satisfaction, lets 
remember that wine is still in beta, it's not commercial software, it's 
written by a bunch of great people that donate their time and brainpower in 
order to better the Linux experience - would you punish the guy that cut your 
lawn for free but missed a few blades?  How about the guy that built your 
house for free but painted it a colour you didn't like?  Of course not, so 
lets not get down on the people who are either creating this wonderful 
system, documenting it, or trying their best to help people who have grown up 
on windows understand the concept and reason behind . files (although I do 
agree that the wine list is not exactly the place to learn linux basics.)

Thank you to everyone who has helped everyone - no matter how small your 
contribution may have been, it was important to somebody.

Now to the point.

   I run SUSE 10.0, Started with Wine 0.9.11 configured with Winetools (I Know 
- but it worked) after upgrading to Wine 0.9.14 (I install by RPMs only), my 
IE stopped working, my WMP couldn't open files anymore, so, since I knew that 
winetools was supposed to be less than optimal, I uninstalled Winetools, 
uninstalled Wine, removed remnents (.wine), re-installed Wine 0.9.14 and have 
since upgraded to 0.9.15.

   I have followed all of the instructions in this thread for installing IE6, 
to the last detail.  It does not work. sometimes I get the "download was 
damaged" message - just try it again immediately - downloads and installs 
fine ... but Internet explorer will not run.

   When I type wine iexplore, a big white blank window opens up.  I remembered 
about using native iexplore added to wine in 0.9.14, so I typed wine iexplore 
http://www.google.ca - same window opens up but has "HTML rendering is 
currently disabled"

   Either I missed a post, am doing something wrong, or the addition of a 
native version of IE to wine has disallowed MS Internet Explorer to function 
under Wine.

   Under most circumstances this would be perfectly fine by me, but 
unfortunately, one of my suppliers (Ingram Micro) sees it in their infinite 
wisdom to only allow passwords entered by IE6 - I have tried Firefox (both in 
windows and Linux) and Konqueror, but neither work, and I am threatened that 
my account will be locked due to invalid password.  This did work perfectly 
fine under Wine 0.9.11 configured with Winetools.

   One last note, In a sputtering last attempt at self rectification (read: 
attempted to fix it myself), I tried winetools again - no luck same problems 
as before.

   Does anyone have any comments/suggestions/scooby snacks?

Derek McGowan

On Tuesday 13 June 2006 21:39, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On 6/13/06, Peter Åstrand <astrand at cendio.se> wrote:
> <SNIP>
>
> > * I think it would be nice if you could include my command lines for
> > fetching & extracting inseng.dll, for those users without a Windows
> > installation nearby:
> >
> > $ wget
> > http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_sp1/W98NT42KMeXP/E
> >N-US/IE_S5.CAB $ cabextract -L IE_S5.CAB
> > $ cabextract -L -F inseng.dll ie_5.cab
> > $ rm -rf ~/.wine ie_5.cab IE_S5.CAB
> > $ wineprefixcreate
> > $ cp inseng.dll ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/
> > $ wget
> > http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_sp1/W98NT42KMeXP/E
> >N-US/ie6setup.exe $ wine ie6setup.exe
>
> Hi Peter,
>    First, thanks very much for taking the time to put this down in an
> email. Unfortunately on my system this process completes cleanly for
> the first 7 commands but fails on the last command with the same error
> message I got from using winetools - that the download was damaged and
> that I should clear my cache and try again. Bummer.
>
>    Any ideas what else I might try? What info would you want to know
> about this system to figure out why it works for you but fails for me?
> Here I'm Gentoo-based and reasonable up to date.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
> P.S. to James - While it may not have occurred to you, even if this
> was posted numerous times on this list, many of us do not subscribe to
> these lists unless we have a need to get something answered. Thanks. -
> MWK
>
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