[Wine] One application that I would like to see work.

James Hawkins truiken at gmail.com
Fri Feb 8 11:08:19 CST 2008


On Feb 8, 2008 10:09 AM, Dotan Cohen <dotancohen at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 08/02/2008, A. Tres Finocchiaro <tres.finocchiaro at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Opera only works for certain platforms and closed source, so its inherently
> > a disease to the idea behind Linux.
>
> I will not get into a religious debate with you. As an end user, I use
> the products that fit my workflow, regardless of philosophy. And I pay
> what they cost. I use Linux because it is a tool that does what I need
> better than the alternatives. I use Opera because it is a tool that
> does what i need better than the alternatives. Actually, I'm using
> Firefox at the moment because with certain extensions, it fits my work
> better than Opera.
>
> > In some cases, its worth paying for pre-compiled versions of proprietary
> > software for linux.  IBM does this for x86 for their lotus notes
> > application, and also for their iSeries Client access.
>
> Agreed.
>
> > I'm not saying I don't support the idea, but that company's site looks like
> > they're relatively small.  To ask a community to bombard them with emails is
> > rude and selfish.
>
> I understand the point, based on the size of the company. However, I
> think that we should start telling these companies that we need Linux
> solutions, instead of crying that they ignore us. Of course they
> ignore Linux users. _We_ need to contact _them_.
>
> > Photoshop is on a different scale, it is a standard, and part of today's
> > every-day vocabulary.  Using photoshop as an example of an application that
> > you "don't use", but "still request linux support for" is a weak argument.
>
> I find the Gimp find for the little work that I do. However, I am
> aware that people exist who were raised on Photoshop and need that
> tool. I'm even enough of a jerk to help them by contacting Adobe and
> backing them up. And you know what? I've already resolved myself to
> trying Photoshop again (last used version 5.5) when it's available on
> Linux. I'll buy the software if I see that it is an improvement over
> Gimp.
>
> > There is certainly a contradiction between "runs on Linux" and "closed
> > source" Linux and the Open Unixes are the only widespread PC operating
> > systems to change Kernels on a monthly basis, and they're the only thing out
> > that can be compiled to run on any platform.  As long as new platforms are
> > developed, more requests for precompiled close source applications will
> > surface, and you will again be sending this SPAM email to a bunch of people
> > that don't program their own joysticks.
>
> Again, you are mixing philosophical interests that I am unwilling to
> take part in. Sorry. I do understand the need for a free, open OS as
> well as I understand the need to cure cancer, feed Asia, save the
> endangered insect of the month, and fight global warming. I will
> support all those causes in the little ways that I can. But I will not
> argue about them. Nor is this the place for it.
>

Please take this argument OFF LIST.  It's off-topic and no one else
cares to hear it.

-- 
James Hawkins



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