[Wine] Wine 1.2-rc?, nVidia, and WoW 3.3.5 Problems

[James Mckenzie]

Forwarding to list.

One of my concerns is that we don't direct users to scan the forum entries before they post.  

This is just one example of 'me too' messages in a series.

And the maddening thing is that folks like Jim below, don't have the problem.

Several 'fixes' have been posted to work around what originally appears to be brokenness in Wine, starting about 1.1.44, nVidia drivers starting around 195.35 and with Ubuntu 10.4 that affect World of Warcraft and other Blizzard games, starting with the lastest updates.  

Solutions suggested have been:
Backlevel Wine (I don't know about you, but that is not good advice.)
Backlevel nVidia's drivers to a version lower than 195.26 (195.25 are reported to work.)
Add a package to your system (the package name is repeated several times in several threads in the forum.)

One thing to note:  This is NOT a Wine bug.  There are no changes that affect WoWs ability to run under Wine and I'm of the opinion that Blizzard would not deliberately break a very popular on-line game just to stop the use of Wine.

Please folks, scan through the forum and try the solutions.  If they don't work, then please visit the Wine Bugzilla.  If there is an open bug report for the problem, create a login and VOTE for the bug.  This lets developers (most of whom are voluteers) know that the problem is major.  If there is no bug report, please create one.  Unreported problems will NEVER get fixed, I have experience in this.

Thank you for your time and reading this post.

James McKenzie



-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: James Mckenzie <jjmckenzie51 at earthlink.net>
>Sent: Jul 1, 2010 7:17 AM
>To: Jim Hall <volunteer.jim at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Wine] Wine 1.1.44 and WoW 3.3.5 crash
>
>Jim Hall <volunteer.jim at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:29 PM, James McKenzie <jjmckenzie51 at earthlink.net
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Altair wrote:
>>>
>>>> Similar case with the other recent post about this.
>>>>
>>>> World of Warcraft 3.3.5, just after install the new game patch
>>>> Graphics: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7600 GT (rev a2)
>>>> Driver: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-195.36.31-pkg1.run, the more recent now
>>>> WIne 1.1.44, more recent versions have graphics errors for me
>>>> Debian Lenny
>>>>
>>>> The console output after the crash is VERY long:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> THIS IS A KNOWN PROBLEM.  Please folks, try what is in the forums BEFORE
>>> you post a message like this.  nVidia video drivers 195.27 and up ARE BROKEN
>>> UNDER WINE.  You have to back level them to 195.26 OR LOWER.
>>>
>>> If, after doing this, problems still appear, please look through our
>>> Bugzilla.  Then and ONLY THEN post messages here.
>>>
>>> NOT TO BYTE YOUR HEAD OFF, BUT THIS THE FIFTH MESSAGE LIKE THIS IN THE LAST
>>> 24 HOURS.
>>>
>>> James McKenzie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>This is kind of strange. Mine is also Lenny, Nvidia 9600 GT, driver 256.35.
>>Wine version is 1.1.42. Game works just fine. Wish I could tell you why.
>>
>Interesting as well.  Seems this appears with a certain combination of 'stuff'.
>One:  The lastest/greatest kernel beta build.
>Two:  Wine 1.1.44 or higher.
>Three:  The lack of a package built about a month ago.
>Four:  nVidia video card drivers 256.35.  The older 195 drivers work.
>
>However, I do stand by my statement to PLEASE look through the forum and bugzilla BEFORE posting a 'me too' message.  This is highly irritating and shows absolutely NO EFFORT on the part of the poster to try and get their problem fixed.  Maybe this is the Microsoft mentality, but come on folks we are volunteers and we would really love to fix bugs rather than answer the same question for the fifth, tenth or even twentith time in a day (yes, it was that bad...)
>
>Maybe another sticky in is in for this problem....
>
>James McKenzie