[Wine] Is there a difference ...?
Jake Thomas
jthomas97411 at yahoo.com
Tue May 3 13:22:29 CDT 2011
Wow! Thanks for the very informative response! So that CAN cause destruction (NTFS and Linux and WINE). Wow. Signing up for this mail subscription was a good idea. Looks like I'll learn a lot.
Cheers,
Jake
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> 3. Re: Noob-Having trouble getting programs to run (doh123)
> 4. WARCRAFT 3 (yuskhanzab)
> 5. Re: Is there a difference ...? (oiaohm)
> 6. How to backup iPod files to Macbook (Cortimer09)
> 7. Re: Ragnarok private server (yuskhanzab)
> 8. Switching to 16-bit colour depth (from 24) - is it possible?
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> 9. Re: steam games not working (natostanco)
> 10. Error in wine registry (pieterparker17)
> 11. Re: Error in wine registry (oiaohm)
> 12. Re: Error in wine registry (pieterparker17)
> 13. Re: Switching to 16-bit colour depth (from 24) - is it
> possible? (oiaohm)
> 14. Can't see list of winetricks! (CrayonKing)
> 15. Re: Can't see list of winetricks! (CrayonKing)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 21:32:09 -0500
> From: "oiaohm" <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
> Subject: [Wine] Re: Caution when deleting .wine ...
> To: wine-users at winehq.org
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> topher.becca Owner ship of files and ownership of machine are two different things. Owner ship of files is a filesystem feature.
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> Sudo is a Linux/Unix/Posix command to run as root/administrator user.
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> Even under OS X its possible to run wine as the wrong user on the machine leading to permission stuff up. Since I am not a OS X user I cannot really tell you how to fix it. Since I don't know what will get to the the right user to correct an error like this.
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> Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 19:43:00 -0700
> From: James McKenzie <jjmckenzie51 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wine] Caution when deleting .wine ...
> To: wine-users at winehq.org
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> On 5/2/11 2:35 PM, topher.becca wrote:
>> jjmckenzie wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM, topher.becca<wineforum-user at winehq.org> wrote:
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>>>> When I entered 'rm -rf ~/.wine' it says:
>>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Inbox Toolbar: Permission denied
>>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/Program Files: Directory not empty
>>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/All Users/Start Menu/Programs/Inbox Toolbar: Permission denied
>>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/All Users/Start Menu/Programs: Directory not empty
>>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/All Users/Start Menu: Directory not empty
>>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/All Users: Directory not empty
>>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles: Directory not empty
>>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/windows: Directory not empty
>>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c: Directory not empty
>>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine: Directory not empty
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>>>> What does this mean?
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>>> This means that your user does not 'own' the files. Did you by chance
>>> run Wine as root or through sudo? The Wine FAQ has instructions on
>>> how to fix file permissions. It appears that you are using a Mac, and
>>> I highly recommend switching $HOME and then running sudo rm -rf .wine.
>>> NEVER RUN WINE AS SUDO unless recommended and then you will have to
>>> fix file permissions before running Wine again as your user.
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>>> Location of file permissions fix:
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>>> http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-8b89c928ce782c014b8b312469223296093e1484
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>>> James McKenzie
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>> Actually, I'm the owner of the whole computer, so I should own all the files.
> No, you don't and you should not. I know of at least three directories
> on a Mac that this is not true. However, if you put the file in your
> home directory you should own the file.
>> Also, what is SUDO? I'm not sure as to what that is exactly.
> Open terminal and type in man sudo. More information than you really need.
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> The point is: How did you install Wine?
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>> I am using a Mac, but could you walk me through? Whenever I remove Wine, and then reinstall it, I can go to the File Manager, click Shell, and go to the trash that has the icon of a trash can, and it still shows everything I have deleted, and I want to remove that.
> This function may or may not work in Wine. I will have to look at this
> and given my current time schedule it will be this weekend at the
> earliest. However, there are other Wine on Mac folks that may be able
> to provide guidance on how to get those files out of the Trash in File
> Manager. This is NOT the Trash for the Mac area.
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> Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 21:50:49 -0500
> From: "doh123" <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
> Subject: [Wine] Re: Noob-Having trouble getting programs to run
> To: wine-users at winehq.org
> Message-ID: <1304391049.m2f.60357 at forum.winehq.org>
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> according to the AppDB, I'm not sure anyones gotten it to work yet.
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> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=12391
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> Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 22:50:45 -0500
> From: "yuskhanzab" <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
> Subject: [Wine] WARCRAFT 3
> To: wine-users at winehq.org
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> mouse problem after i update wine to ver 1.3.19. i cant control the mouse and click left mouse properly in warcraft 3. some one have to fix this..
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> Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 23:30:03 -0500
> From: "oiaohm" <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
> Subject: [Wine] Re: Is there a difference ...?
> To: wine-users at winehq.org
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>> Doh123, how is running a program off an NTFS partition asking for trouble? Ntfsprogs seems to handle it just fine. I know that NTFS doesn't let you mark a file as executable, and that the filesystem is susceptible to fragmentation, but you should just be able to tell it to run rather than display and be good. It shouldn't cause destruction. I think there might even be an NTFS defrag tool for Linux, I'd have to check.
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> Really NTFS is fairly good on fragmentation resistance as long as drive remains under 90 percent full. And shake defrag will work okish on it. I have had to use shake defrag from Linux on a ntfs drive that was that badly fragmented that windows defrag tools would not even attempt.
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> But executable bit is not the only file system part Ntfsprogs is missing. There is a serous difference in mmap handling compared to ext2 ext3 or ext4 from the ntfs3g driver. These differences do cause failures in applications when on ntfs with wine that don't happen when on ext2 ext3 or ext4. So for us doing support we want tested on ext filesystems so we know if the issue you are seeing is ntfs3g issue or wine with every file-system.
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> ntfsprogs still lacks a 100 percent working fsck to fix up in case of power loss or other case of lose of operation. So after power loss booting into windows can be required to restore access to the ntfs drive. Ok what cause a power loss like event. Wine finding a video card driver defect so crashing the kernel. So not a wise combination.
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> Ntfs3g what you have to use for writing support also has a high cpu load than using a native ext3/4 as a loop back on ntfs3g. (Yes I know that is wrong but its the way the numbers work out). Really running loop back on top of another file-system should work out slower but this is one of these odd cases.
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> Using NTFS is also not good to keep the separation between windows installed executable and wine installed executable. This can turn into major problems for wine and windows. Windows loading up an application installed by wine can completely destroy windows at times. Yes we don't like getting into trouble for destroying copies of windows. Also applications installed in windows and copied to wine can also have issues due to missing register entries and other things.
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> Next issue is fools. Who here that wine works on NTFS so points the wine c drive to there windows c drive then wonder why next boot of windows nothing works.
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> And the most annoying of all(we have this with Linux a little). Is that wine place holder executable get detected and deleted by lots of Commercial anti-virus software so causing malfunctions you will not otherwise see. There are particular commercial anti-viruses that run under Linux that should not be used with wine as well. But there are options under the commerical anti-viruses for Linux to exude wine directories from being scanned by them and to use something like clamav to cover the areas that are touchy. Not so simple in a Windows environment to have particular directories monitored and scanned by different anti-virus products. So this leads to major problems due to a lack of flexibility on the windows side. Secuirty you don't want to leave directories unmonitored.
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> Simply for all sanity. Its better to act like wine does not work on NTFS at all. That way anyone running it on NTFS is doing so at there own risk can cannot be recommend it as working so we don't get more complaints from the issues that will crop up in time.
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> Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 23:46:05 -0500
> From: "Cortimer09" <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
> Subject: [Wine] How to backup iPod files to Macbook
> To: wine-users at winehq.org
> Message-ID: <1304397965.m2f.60360 at forum.winehq.org>
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> This article introduces a useful iPod tool called ipod to Mac Transfer (http://www.macdvdrippersoft.com/ipod-to-mac-transfer-imacsoft.html).
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> Part 1: What can iMacsoft iPod to Mac Transfer Do?
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> <1>Rip, copy and manage iPod music, videos, photos, podcasts and TV Shows between iPod/iPhone and Mac.
> <2>Transfer files from iPod to Mac, iPhone to Mac.
> <3>Edit and delete iPod/iPhone playlists.
> <4>Copy files among multiple iPods. Transfer iPod to iPod on Mac.
> <5>Transfer iPod music, videos, photos to iPhone.
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> Part 2: How to use iPod to Mac Transfer?
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> Step 0: Free download iPod to Mac Transfer (http://www.macdvdrippersoft.com/download/ipod-transfer/m-ipod-to-mac-transfer.dmg), install and run it.
> All information about your iPod, such as type, capacity, version, serial number, and format, will be shown on the main interface.
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> [Image: http://www.macdvdrippersoft.com/images/guide/mac-1.jpg ]
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> Step 1: Transfer movies to iPod
> Open the library/playlist that you want to transfer.
> Click the "Add files to iPod" or "Add Folder to iPod" button.
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> [Image: http://www.macdvdrippersoft.com/images/guide/mac-2.jpg ]
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> Step 2: Locate the required audio files on the pop-up dialogbox and click "Open" button to import selected files to your iPod.
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> [Image: http://www.macdvdrippersoft.com/images/guide/mac-3.jpg ]
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> Step 3: Edit iPod Playlist
> To those who want to create their own personalized iPod Playlist, you can try this function.
> Choose the "File -> Playlist" option to create a new list , and then choose the "New Playlist" option from the submenu.
> Drag & drop to import or export files need and drag it to the local, or you can choose the file from the local and drag it to the iPod.
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> More:
> If you are Windows user, you can use AVCWare iPod to iTunes/PC Transfer (http://www.macdvdrippersoft.com/ipod-transfer-avcware.html) or Aiseesoft iPod Transfer (http://www.macdvdrippersoft.com/ipod-transfer-aiseesoft.html)
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 03:23:41 -0500
> From: "yuskhanzab" <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
> Subject: [Wine] Re: Ragnarok private server
> To: wine-users at winehq.org
> Message-ID: <1304411021.m2f.60361 at forum.winehq.org>
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> how can u play a ragnarok private server using wine? can u teach me how to do that?im also have the same problem...
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 03:48:41 -0500
> From: "Wintershade" <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
> Subject: [Wine] Switching to 16-bit colour depth (from 24) - is it
> possible?
> To: wine-users at winehq.org
> Message-ID: <1304412521.m2f.60362 at forum.winehq.org>
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> Hello. I'm having a bit of trouble running some old games, like Planescape Torment (http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=22660&iTestingId=61130) (the GOG.com version). When I try to start the game, it complains about the desktop bit depth (I have 24 as default, and it requires 16-bit).
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> The game suggests I should either run it in fullscreen (which I am), or to switch to 16-bit colour depth (which is quite an inconvenience if I have to edit xorg.conf and restart X every time I want to play the game, and then edit xorg.conf back, and restart X again)
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> Is it possible to use (or emulate?) 16-bit colours inside, e.g. a WINE virtual desktop? Or to use some opengl extension which would provide this effect?
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 03:59:11 -0500
> From: "natostanco" <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
> Subject: [Wine] Re: steam games not working
> To: wine-users at winehq.org
> Message-ID: <1304413151.m2f.60363 at forum.winehq.org>
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> nobody? I just installed wine, removed .wine folder first, installed steam, than downloaded tf2 and disabled gameoverlayrender and it gives me only that error. could not load library client
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 04:32:46 -0500
> From: "pieterparker17" <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
> Subject: [Wine] Error in wine registry
> To: wine-users at winehq.org
> Message-ID: <1304415166.m2f.60364 at forum.winehq.org>
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> i am importing Win XP registry file to Wine , using a command
> $ regedit filename.reg
> but an error occured ,which is shown below
> err:winedevice:ServiceMain driver L"USBFORDEC" failed to load
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> why this error is shown and how it can be eliminated ??
> Regards
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 05:05:34 -0500
> From: "oiaohm" <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
> Subject: [Wine] Re: Error in wine registry
> To: wine-users at winehq.org
> Message-ID: <1304417134.m2f.60365 at forum.winehq.org>
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> Number 1 that kind of error should not stop a reg import.
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> Please try a clean wine prefix I suspect you have added something that is distrupting wine. winedevice is what is used to load copy protection drivers and any other driver wine is told to load into memory. Reports errors like that when a incompatible driver has been installed.
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 05:15:22 -0500
> From: "pieterparker17" <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
> Subject: [Wine] Re: Error in wine registry
> To: wine-users at winehq.org
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> oiaohm wrote:
>> Number 1 that kind of error should not stop a reg import.
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>> Please try a clean wine prefix I suspect you have added something that is distrupting wine.
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> what it meant by wine prefix ? i didnt use it.
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 05:16:21 -0500
> From: "oiaohm" <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
> Subject: [Wine] Re: Switching to 16-bit colour depth (from 24) - is it
> possible?
> To: wine-users at winehq.org
> Message-ID: <1304417781.m2f.60367 at forum.winehq.org>
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> Answer is kinda No. Some applications fall for Virtual desktop window option and work. But if they don't fall for it you are kinda stuffed.
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> X11 has its limitations. I have not looks at xepher or other sub X11 servers.
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> Basically wine does not emulate what the screen is.
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> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 05:17:27 -0500
> From: "CrayonKing" <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
> Subject: [Wine] Can't see list of winetricks!
> To: wine-users at winehq.org
> Message-ID: <1304417847.m2f.60368 at forum.winehq.org>
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> Hello, I updated using the preferences and once I did, my list of winetricks disappeared. I am using Wine in OSX please help because I am getting a run time error whilst installing a program. The error reads Cannot Import dll:C\windiws\temp\is-19038.tmp\isskinu.dll I want to see if I can find a wine trick to Get rid of this error message. PLEASE thanks.
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> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 05:18:32 -0500
> From: "CrayonKing" <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
> Subject: [Wine] Re: Can't see list of winetricks!
> To: wine-users at winehq.org
> Message-ID: <1304417912.m2f.60369 at forum.winehq.org>
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> sorry ....C\windOws\.....
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