[Wine] Can't log into SSL sites with Mac, Wine

[sfatula]

Using any version I have tried, from old 1.1, to new 1.3.19, I cannot use IE7 or IE8 to log into a https site.

Not even Google.

ie either hangs, or, on many sites, simply says that the password is wrong. 

I've tried many https sites I log into. 

I also overrode wininet and winhttp, and crpt, to no avail.

Any other ideas? What sort or trace might be useful were I to file a bug report?