[Bug 10495] Wine should support PulseAudio

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http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10495





--- Comment #112 from Sardem FF7 <sardemff7.pub at gmail.com>  2009-06-17 01:49:34 ---
(In reply to comment #111)
> > PulseAudio works just fine.
> 
> No it doesn't. If it did, we wouldn't need a discussion on the best way to
> improve Pulseaudio support in Wine.

PulseAudio works fine, any application using natively PulseAudio doesn't have
problem. There is no way to say "this application doesn't work fine" just
because you don't want to use it.


> Difference is that ESD and Arts daemons did not provide an ALSA compatibility
> layer. Pulseaudio does, but it doesn't suit Wine's current needs.

And Wine provide compatibility layer for Windows application, doesn't it ? And
I note that so much applications doesn't work, it doesn't suit users' needs so
?


> Who said anything about GAMING? Wine is not just used by gamers, nor is Linux.
> Even so, Wine's goal is to cater to *everyone*. Low-latency is required for
> professionals, but it doesn't matter for regular users. So you're suggesting
> Wine should explicitly say "we don't want professionals, only casual users" by
> saying latency is not an issue.

Wine is not the solution for professional, they use Windows, as gamers. And we
don't say "remove ALSA and Jack drivers", they have to still in Wine, for these
aims. We just need a PulseAudio driver, because no other driver provides what a
PulseAudio one can : simple software mixing without latency (for human ear).

And PulseAudio can use ALSA and/or OSS to output sound, so a common WinePulse
driver is a good solution about "OSS or ALSA"-platform choice.


> These patches are not supported by WineHQ in any way. If Ubuntu and Fedora
> package maintainers do so, then it is their responsibility to manage any bugs
> or technical support relating to Pulse and Wine. Users with prepackaged
> winepulse drivers that post on the WineHQ forum, users mailing list or IRC
> channel will be inevitably turned away and sent to the relevant distro-specific
> forum.

Fedora does it yet, and does fine. They are thinking about users, and all main
applications in Fedora works fine with PulseAudio.


But why discuss about that ? The driver is here. It needs some improvement, I
agree, but it works. Will another sound driver in Wine broke it ? We need the
ALSA driver, for hardware stuff, but we need PulseAudio too.

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