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work. This is not the case with ALSA and OSS, maybe it would work somehow if I
would switch to another soundcard, but that's not a good solution either.

I don't mind if the PulseAudio-Support has higher latency issues - a bad
solution is often better than no solution at all.


--- Comment #80 from Dmitry Timoshkov <dmitry at codeweavers.com>  2009-04-07 00:41:08 ---
You may try to make this work from the other way around: request PulseAudio
to support Wine properly.


--- Comment #81 from Ben Klein <shacklein at gmail.com>  2009-05-11 22:11:46 ---
(In reply to comment #78)
> Sure any sound server also has disadvantages. But Pulse is there per default in
> the majority of the current LINIX desktops and this is for good reasons. Gnome,
> KDE, XFCE all use Pulse. Thus it is not just one more sound server but
> currently the sound server for LINUX.

Big falsehood here. Gnome and KDE on *some* distributions (Ubuntu, Fedora,
Mandriva come to mind) use pulse by default. They are all capable of using ALSA
(with dmix if required) directly. XFCE does not use pulse, nor does xubuntu
from what I've heard.

(In reply to comment #78)
> There really should be no need for Wine to suspend Pulse.
> 
> It should only be necessary as an extra option for special requirements but not
> for the average user.

Pulseaudio itself is a special requirement because its ALSA layer is broken.

(In reply to comment #78)
> Thus it is no question for me that Wine needs a Puls audio driver. The question
> is if there is somebody willing and capable of writing one with sufficient
> quality and support. 
> 
> This seems to be the case. Thus supporting the people who write the driver
> would be much more efficient then arguing against it.
> 
> That there would be much less need for a Pulse driver if Pulse should improve
> the ALSA layer is not an argument against a Pulse driver.

Yes it is. One of the main points about pulseaudio is that it's meant to work
with <insert sound system here> without the application needing modifications.
This is true for the majority of ALSA/OSS applications. Wine doesn't *need* a
pulse driver if:
1) winealsa is improved to work better with current pulseaudio
2) pulseaudio is improved to have a fully working ALSA compatibility layer

Both of these options have the advantage that no new driver needs to be
included and maintained.


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