[Bug 10495] Wine should support PulseAudio

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http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10495





--- Comment #184 from Rotbart van Dainig <rotbart_van_dainig at lavabit.com>  2009-10-10 08:50:23 ---
(In reply to comment #183)
> You are aware that Wine cannot just support what is "common" or popular?

I think I'm used to be aware that the use case for Wine is exactly to support
what's "common" and popular - that's the whole point of supporting Windows
applications under different OS', isn't it?

> API design has *everything* to do with code, because the code implements the
> API design.

That way around, sure - sorry for being unclear. Just old code, that is simply
scrapped when the API redesign comes, should in no way influence either the API
design or the new code written from scratch.

> It *would* work just as well as a native pulse driver. As it is, wineesd doesn't even work well with ESD.

Hey, if you can fix wineesd for _now_ to allow, say, playing Diablo 2 without
action samples playing about a second after the action - go for it.

> Or, on the other hand, we could overhaul the internal audio API and make it a
> lot easier to maintain new and existing drivers, thus paving the way for
> winepulse/wineboomer/winespeedaudio/wineopenal whatever inclusion upstream.

Nobody is asking you to stop that, on the contrary.

The only thing people are asking is to get a driver in vanilla Wine that allows
them to use Wine well with current desktop distros until that golden age of new
Wine Audio dawns.

On the other hand, I'm tired of reading the same excuses to artificially create
deadlocks over and over again: Postponing everthing to the shiny new code that
will miraculosly fix everything (but didn't even start for about two years now)
is just as frustrating as claiming the need to drop drivers when including new
ones, then later on locking down on that with the point that people still need
it, even if other whonder why those are still there.
Don't bother repeating those - I won't bother you repeating myself anymore,
don't worry Austin.

PS: I'm well aware that there are coding style issues with the patches.

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