[Bug 10495] Wine should support PulseAudio

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Tue Oct 16 13:10:57 CDT 2012


http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10495

pulse <pulseaudio at sogetthis.com> changed:

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                 CC|                            |pulseaudio at sogetthis.com

--- Comment #386 from pulse <pulseaudio at sogetthis.com> 2012-10-16 13:10:57 CDT ---
It's alright, it will happen eventually. The wine devs have gone through the
denial phase (Pulse is "not capable", it's not shipped by default on "most
distributions", "ALSA compatibility is a better solution" somehow). They're
just finished the anger phase (completely badgering Maarten and his work). Now
they're finally in the bargaining phase ("build some reputation again and maybe
we can talk") where we can start making some progress.

It's a shame that the only basis the wine devs have to reject the patch any
longer is based on "reputation issues" rather than actual technical arguments.
There may have been some in the past, and now there isn't anymore so they're
still struggling to find reasons to reject the patch in order to preserve the
reality they've built for themselves over the entire 1,794 days during which
this bug has been open. It's normal -- it's simply a defence mechanism; they
don't want their own reality to crumble down, so they rationalize away their
reasoning, which deep down they know to be flawed, but they convince themselves
that it's not.

They'll get over it eventually, it will just take some more time. Until then,
we as users should just keep using patched Wine releases and patiently wait for
them to come out of their comfy artificial shell.

Now, one of three things is going to happen: Either they will simply ignore
this post despite knowing it to be true, either they'll cherry-pick one or two
statements and provide non-technical arguments as to why they don't stand (and
somehow, refuting that subset of the post invalidates the entire post), or
maybe (just maybe!) they'll see things for what they really are and actually
start working *with* Maarten (and, by extensions, most users of Wine) instead
of *against* Maarten.

I wish Maarten the best of luck in his work and his interactions with the Wine
devs. I also want to express my appreciation towards his work, without which
Wine would simply not be usable at all for me.

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