Dr. Seuss, licensing, and WINE
David Elliott
dfe at tgwbd.org
Sat Feb 9 01:33:03 CST 2002
On 2002.02.08 14:48 Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Sean Farley wrote:
>
> > Just relax and take deep breaths. :) As should we all.
>
> It's difficult, because I see, once again, how the discussion deviates to
> mostly irrelevant topics. Quite frankly, I am very dissapointed with the
> current debate:
>
> -- I provide arguments which details the feedback mechanism generated
> by
> each license. What do I get back: "nobody stops companies from
> contributing back under BSD" or "it is possible that companies will still
> contribute back under BSD", and crap like that. If people don't
> udnerstand
> that a system survives not on political will but on feedback loops
> built-in the system, they don't understand how the world works, and we're
> just wasting time.
>
Small correction:
If people don't understand that some people are decent and contribute back
regardless of whether they are forced to or not, but others are not and
require a feedback loop to force this behavior, then they don't understand
how the world works and we're just wasting time.
> -- instead of focusing the discussion on what's important for Wine, we
> get incredible FUD as "people will be afraid to link against the LGPL".
>
> -- we get arguments of the form: "it is possible that..." But of course
> is "possible", for crying out loud!!! Everything is possible, but we
> should be concerned with what's _probable_!
>
> I'll stop here, because I'm too upset to continue, to be honest...
>
I think it's more of an issue of people thinking too much in black/white
terms and people that lean strong towards one side or the other.
Look no further than the US political system for a good example. You have
the Republicans and the Democrats. Generally they take every issue to
opposite ends of the extreme such that 99% of congress is at one extreme
or the other, but 99% of the population wants neither extreme.
Essentially we could go on forver about X11/BSD vs. GPL. It's been
discussed to death already folks. What we need are reasonable
compromises. Of course you need to have people willing to compromise to
do that. I suspect most developers are with the exception of the view
vocal BSD people and the few vocal LGPL all the way people. I myself am
certainly not at either extreme.
-Dave
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