Versions & mass-appeal

[Uwe Bonnes]

>>>>> "Dimitrie" == Dimitrie O Paun <dpaun at rogers.com> writes:

    Dimitrie> On October 30, 2002 01:57 am, Ender wrote:
    >> - Many apps do not work without Desktop enabled. This is far worse
    >> than it sounds, because most newbies try managed non-desktop
    >> first. People think WINE should be able to do seemless
    >> intergration. Then when an application hangs, they think it's
    >> incompatible and give up. However in many cases the Application will
    >> work fine in Desktop mode. BAD, these apps should either be made to
    >> work... or non-desktop mode should be removed!

    Dimitrie> IMO desktop mode exists only because our integration is not
    Dimitrie> very good.  It should die sooner, rather than later, it's just
    Dimitrie> a big hack. So we should rather focus on getting apps to work
    Dimitrie> in non-desktop more, rather then resurrecting the silly
    Dimitrie> desktop option.

Well,

my opinion on desktop mode is another one. It's not silly. Two examples:
- any program in non-desktop mode switching to full screen (hey, a lot of
programs like installer do that) and crashing later without a proper setup
of the debugger. No most users are left in a situation they can't easily
solve, as they don't know that they still can switch consoles and kill wine...
- any application poping up endless series of new processes, each process
grabbing keyboard focus. In a good desktop mode  I would expect the real
focus not to switch from the outside to the desktop. As now each process
spawns it's own new desktop, focus is switched anyways. 

Bye
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