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[Dan Kegel]

Francois Gouget wrote:
>>On the Forums page, the wine-users at winehq.com list should
>>probably be the first thing on the page.
> 
> Yes, we could tweak this. What about the following order:
> 
>   wine-announce
>   wine-users
>   wine-devel
>   wine-patches
>   wine-cvs
>   wine-releases
>   wine-license
>   wine-bugs
>   wine-tests-results

i.e. move 'users' up right after 'announce'.  That's perfect.

>>The newsgroup link is currently wrong(!); it's currently
>>   news://comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine/
> 
> 
> Where did you find the broken link?

Would you believe Mozilla 1.5 did it?  Hard to believe, but true.  Sounds like a bug in mozilla!

>>And we should probably link to the newsgroups [gatewayed mailing lists] at gmane.org, too.
 > ...
> diff -u -r1.9 forums.template
> --- templates/en/forums.template	4 Sep 2003 15:55:45 -0000	1.9
> +++ templates/en/forums.template	15 Nov 2003 15:34:07 -0000
 > ...
> +  <li>
> +    [<a href="http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users">(Un-)Subscribe</a>]
> +    [<a href="http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-users/">Archive</a>]  
> +    [<a href="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.wine.users">Gmane</a>]
> +    <a href="mailto:wine-users at winehq.com">wine-users at winehq.com</a><br>
> +    A medium traffic (10/day) open list for end-user discussions.<br><br>

Oddly, the 's' needs to be dropped from the gmane version; it's wine.user, not wine.users.
I would suggest also linking to the nntp interface at gmane, which is the whole
point of gmane.  With those two changes:

 > +  <li>
 > +    [<a href="http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users">(Un-)Subscribe</a>]
 > +    [<a href="news://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.wine.user">via newsreader</a>]
 > +    [<a href="http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-users/">Archive 1</a>]
 > +    [<a href="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.wine.user>Archive 2</a>]

Also, for wine-devel, I'd suggest adding a third archive,
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=wine-devel&r=1&w=2
The marc interface is like vi: some people will hate it, but it's very good for
searching.  Very, very good.

(BTW, there's another archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/wine-devel%40winehq.org/
but it doesn't offer any advantages over the ones you already have, I think.)

> --- wwn/wn20000717_52.xml	25 Jul 2003 18:45:03 -0000	1.4
> +++ wwn/wn20000717_52.xml	15 Nov 2003 15:15:07 -0000
> @@ -163,7 +163,7 @@
>  <p />
>  
>  G&#233;rard posted some follow-up of a debugging discussion he had on 
> -<a href="news:///comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine">
> +<a href="news:comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine">
>  comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine</a> (Title was 'Wine with ASS won't run
>  stripped binaries').

Good change, thanks.
- Dan