Contributing to WINE

Mike Hearn m.hearn at signal.QinetiQ.com
Wed Sep 22 10:55:17 CDT 2004


> When I try to read you email in pine I get:
>>   [ Part 1, Application/X-PKCS7-MIME  11KB. ]
>>   [ Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file. ]
> 
> 
> So to read it I would have to save it as a file and then try to figure
> out how to read it (or wait for some other wine-devel subscriber to
> quote it in a reply, thanks Mike<g>). I have also heard reports that it
> causes some versions of mutt to crash. I don't know what happens if one
> tries to read it in emacs (which is what Alexandre uses) but if it is
> anything like pine or mutt this may explain the lack of response.

Firstly let's get the email format discussion out of the way:

To be fair, this seems to be Mutt/Pine sucking. The email source is a 
very standard multipart/mixed HTML+text mail which is the de-facto 
standard outside of geek mailing lists :) There's nothing magic about 
it, if somebodies email client can't read it, it seems to be broken. 
Unless something between me and wine-devel washed it into a more 
standard format (unlikely, never heard of it)

I'm not sure where application/x-pkcs7-mime came from. That string 
doesn't appear in the email at all.

The sending client is Outlook. Any email client that can't receive mail 
from Outlook needs some bugfixing, I think, standards or not.

> Finally I'll note than an 'empty' email like this is pretty likely to be
> confused with spam or email sent by a worm with a spoofed email address
> as is unfortunately so common these days. That's another factor that may
> explain the lack of response.

It's not empty. It's form is totally standard, I get emails like this 
all the time. In fact it was scanned by SpamAssassin:

X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on ouse.qinetiq.com
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no 
version=2.64

... and didn't trigger any rules at all. While posting as plain text to 
wine-devel makes sense, let's not roast this guy for a strange quirk of 
ourselves :)

> So I would recommend reconfiguring your email agent to send plain text
> emails, at least when posting to public mailing lists.

Agreed.

Now that's done with:

- Alexandres email address is on the website, it's julliard at winehq.com
   but the best way to reach him is via this mailing list

- Alexandre is a very busy man who receives a metric ton of email. If he
   didn't respond it's probably nothing personal: more likely it just got
   lost in the noise.

And as others have mentioned, the best way to contribute to Wine is the 
same way everybody else does: by sending patches.

thanks -mike



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