Commercial support

gslink gslink at
Mon May 9 10:11:17 CDT 2005

Paul van Schayck wrote:
> On 5/9/05, gslink <gslink at> wrote:
>>I recently took the list of applications from headquarters that are
>>listed as running properly and found that many of these are available
>>for little cost.  I bought a few and tried to run them.  Not a one ran
>>as is from the box.  I was able to get all of them to run with some
>>trouble.  One big problem I see with Wine is that there is no good
>>testing.  As versions progress things quit running and the author has no
>>way of knowing.  I have no good solution for this problem but I suspect
>>that it needs attention.  It is, of course, part of the documentation
>>problem.  It is not in the nature of programmers to document their work.
> Where would this list be?  As of now there is no list of applications
> we try to keep working with every released snapshot. So developers are
> not required to check their changes against certain applications.
> What we do have is a large set of small test applications we run after changes.
> Paul
Go to the Wine HQ site and click on applications database.  If you need 
more applications check the listed links.
This is a problem with every development effort and nobody is blaming 
anybody.  The larger the effort the worse it gets.  This is probably the 
worst problem both Microsoft and IBM have with code.  If you change 
anything in Wine something somewhere will probably quit running.  This 
is simply the price of progress.  My comment, and it is not a criticism, 
is that Wine still has rough edges.  Eventually these will go away but 
for now, you can't simply load Wine into Linux and blindly start loading 
in applications.  The more complex the application the more likely it 
needs setup.  As versions progress setup procedures change and as a 
result things quit running.  Microsoft Office doesn't run without setup 
and neither do many of the older games such as Alice or Rune.  Even 
things like Warcraft come and go.  This is not a criticism it is just 
the way things are and that is why I think it is too early to start 
thinking about commercial support.
What somebody needs to do now is to get a relationship with IBM similar 
to the one that Eclipse has.  IBM has a problem currently because there 
is no native Lotus Notes client for Linux.  Wine could easily solve this 
problem.  I talked to some of the marketing managers in IBM and most had 
never heard of Wine.  The IBM development labs are currently starting to 
develop this native client.  If IBM could use Wine it could save them 
money and sueing Wine is one thing sueing IBM is another.

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