How are we doing?
tony.lambregts at gmail.com
Wed May 31 12:27:40 CDT 2006
Mike Hearn wrote:
> As the Summer Of Code begins and new blood joins us all at once,
> I thought it'd be a good time to open a discussion on how we are doing as
> a project.
> Questions to consider:
> * Is Wine improving or is the regression rate matching the improvement
Since I have Administrated both the AppDB and Bugzilla for quite a while
I would say that this is about even with regressions keeping pace with
improvements. What seems to be improving is the rate at which the
regressions are caught and fixed.
Catching regressions early is critical to fixing them and the faster
release cycle helps but only if the user upgrades in a timely fashion.
Some programs have been Rock Solid for years (eg: SimCity 3000) while
others are are not. Myst worked for years and then fell victim the
Windows Management rewrite and I have just recently been able to run it
again but it is still very unstable.
Over All I am seeing a lot more activity in bugzilla  since we went
to 0.9.0 as I am sure most of you are aware. Some may call it a flood
but over all I think this has been a good thing. The real downside to
this is that it takes a lot more of my time to go through each email and
see if I can assist and that the proper bug links are in place.
501 in Apr 2005
1492 in Apr 2006
610 in May 2005
1174 in May 2006
> * Are we producing a quality product, from the perspective of
> non-technical end users? (I appreciate this isn't a goal for everyone)
Going to winecfg has made the product more user friendly but we are
still seem to be a long way away from "It Just Works" in a lot of cases.
In the interm I believe the AppDB has helped a lot. I think that the
work that we have put into it has paid off fairly well to a point. So
far we have added:
- Applications Maintantainers that can modify application entries on an
App by App basis.
- Notification emails so that people (Administrators, Maintainers and
Monitors) kept up to date on changes to applications.
- Bug links to track bugs affecting an application.
- Test results to track how well an application runs on a Wine version.
and help spot regressions
- Lots of small improvements.
Lots of thanks to Chris Morgan and Johnathan Ernst and everyone else
that submited patches to get it to its current state.
However there are a number of things that are needed still.
- We need a general search page.
- It would be nice to have the ability for people to have classes of
rights so that they can add/change/delete certain fields IE:
"Application Description" without having to become a maintainer or
There is a todo list here as well. http://wiki.winehq.org/AppdbInfo
If anyone has experience with PHP or wants to gain some, there is a real
need for your help.
- A newsgroup set up that works the same as bugs so that anyone can see
the notifications generated by the AppDB.
I asked Jeremy Newman for this before but I don't think that I explained
the need for it very well. (trying again)
- More Maintainers
If you have an app that you run on a regular basis please consider
becomeing a maintainer for that app.
- More Administrators
The Application Queue is not being processed in a timely fashion.
For myself I am busy with my day job, working on upgrading bugzilla, and
burnt out/frustrated trying to keep up with Application submitions (I am
too soft hearted to reject some submittions that probably should be
rejected). Keeping up with the Application Queue is a tough job (for me
at least, at this time) and at this point just reviewing some of the
submittions makes my head hurt.
Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes and KillerTux have picked up some of the
slack but I think we could use some more help.
This job is time consuming, tedious, thankless and does not come with a
paycheck. It requires attention to detail and is a position of trust and
responsability. On the plus side it does NOT require any programming
skills. So... if this sounds like something you would like to do please
send an email to appdb at winehq.org explaining why you you think you would
be a good AppDB Administrator. (The guys in the white coats will be
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