Some thoughts about next GSoC

mark cox melbournemark+wine-devel at
Thu Nov 22 14:26:49 CST 2007

the FFMpeg project was very successful with it's qualification tasks


On Nov 23, 2007 6:30 AM, Jesse Allen <the3dfxdude at> wrote:

> On Nov 22, 2007 10:00 AM, Kai Blin <kai.blin at> wrote:
> > On Thursday 22 November 2007 17:44:09 Jesse Allen wrote:
> >
> > > From my understanding, the SoC site specifically says that you do not
> > > have to work on a project that has to be completed in the allotted
> > > time. I think the idea is that google wants to encourage people that
> > > were already working on a project before to apply and to encourage
> > > people to continue working in the community after the session is
> > > complete. Now the mentoring organization could set their own
> > > requirements, based on difficulty and scope, but I would be concerned
> > > with making time a limiting factor.
> >
> > I'm not saying that we stop people from working on their stuff
> afterwards, nor
> > forcing them to e.g. implement the full dll if their project is "Start
> an
> > implementation of dll x". I was talking about shrinking their proposal
> so
> > they can actually manage to implement all the features they promise in
> their
> > proposal in the proposed timeframe. I know that this was really hard for
> me.
> >
> > > The best alternative to the quiz would be to have the student begin
> > > working on the project before the application. He can discuss it on
> > > the the mailing list and hopefully show some code. This would be a
> > > good way to judge coding skill and the project's scope. Now in order
> > > for this to work well, we would have to encourage people to get
> > > started early, which really hasn't happened before right?
> >
> > Well, depends on how you want to do this. I think this is overly
> restrictive,
> > unless you're just talking about a patch or two like Maarten proposed.
> >
> Well then it sounds like we want better written proposals. Yeah the
> goals for my project were very broad. I didn't intentionally do it
> that way, but it was more like at first, get it to work, sort of
> thing. And the design wasn't complete until a month in. The only way I
> could have done better was to have started earlier. Mind you, I
> actually did start in April almost two months early. If I get to do it
> again, I will probably have a much more interesting proposal and have
> goals that I will know will have specific results in the timeframe.
> This is what I'm already considering, but that is because I am
> experienced in the program already. For new people, we will have to
> reach out to them and help them get ready early because they won't
> know what to do. Maybe we need pre-SoC mentors?
> Jesse
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