GSoC
Maarten Lankhorst
m.b.lankhorst at gmail.com
Fri Mar 14 17:48:56 CDT 2008
Hi Austin,
2008/3/14, Austin English <austinenglish at gmail.com>:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Maarten Lankhorst
> <m.b.lankhorst at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > 2008/3/13, Scott Ritchie <scott at open-vote.org>:
> >
> >
> > > Christopher Harvey wrote:
> > > > I've had a few ideas that I thought of on my own, but now I'm starting
> > > > to see they perhaps aren't as useful as the ideas thought of by current
> > > > developers, but I'll float it out there one last time. I thought it
> > > > would be cool to create a wine GUI overlay for games, exactly like
> > > > nvPerfHUD. The thing about doing it in wine that makes it better than
> > > > nvPerHUD is the fact the to use nvPerfHUD the apps have to give
> > > > permission for nvPerHUD to run on them. A wine version would actually be
> > > > able to force every single 3d app, opengl or directX to output nvPerfHUD
> > > > like output. Anyway, just a thought. Would I be able to apply for both
> > > > of these projects and pick one last minute?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Chris.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > After talking about the concept a bit at the Ubuntu Developer Summit, I
> > > really don't like the idea of a "Wine GUI" just for running Wine
> > > applications. From the user's persepctive, installers for Wine
> > > applications shouldn't be substantially different from any old Linux
> > > installer - they just click on them, it adds something to their
> > > applications menu, and from then on they can run it from there.
> > >
> > > Most of the futzing with applications, like messing around with native
> > > dlls in winecfg, shouldn't have to be done at all. The same goes with
> > > editing the registry.
> > >
> > > Configuration we'll never be able to eliminate completely, like
> > > selecting the windows version, should ultimately be done through an
> > > intuitive place and not some central "Wine configuration" program. For
> > > instance, I should be able to right click a Windows application, select
> > > properties, and then change the Windows version from there.
> > >
> > > So, yes, I agree. Winecfg is ugly and inadequate for the kind of
> > > configuration our users are doing now. But before we put too much
> > > effort into sprucing up Winecfg, let's instead talk about how feasible
> > > it is to make it unneeded in the first place.
> >
> > I totally agree that a wine gui is not what we want. ui's are counter
> > productive.
> > I also found that I need winecfg less and less, I now run winecfg only
> > to set the windows version to vista. Maybe we should make this version
> > the default now? More and more applications don't want to run with
> > windows version set to 2000, and it should just work.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Maarten.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> There was a discussion a while back about setting the default version
> to XP. Vista may be a bad default, considering how badly it's been
> running, I wouldn't be surprised if some apps start including their
> own workarounds for Vista.
It's a good idea to set to vista, I think we'll support it. Some games
for example won't run on xp any more.
I only know apps that will run if windows version is set to vista. I
don't know any that fail if the version is set to that specifically.
Cheers,
Maarten.
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