Hardy Heron -- Pulseaudio interferes with non-gnome audio

Susan Cragin susancragin at earthlink.net
Wed Mar 19 10:45:09 CDT 2008

But wait! There are more! Alsa people tell me they have one for Ekiga. Gnome has one, too.
I think a wiki page is a great idea, and I'll set one up later on http://ossri.harvee.org

-----Original Message-----
>From: Susan Cragin <susancragin at earthlink.net>
>Sent: Mar 19, 2008 9:03 AM
>To: Wine Developers <wine-devel at winehq.org>
>Cc: Dan Kegel <dank06 at kegel.com>
>Subject: Re: Hardy Heron -- Pulseaudio interferes with non-gnome audio
>Wine has two bugs filed for this also:
>I am worried that everyone (WINE, ALSA, Pulse, Ubuntu) is not on the same page. Will try cross-posting bug information. 
>Part of the problem seems to be that the most-missed application is Skype, and some are trying to get away with blaming closed-source issues. 
>Tom -- I should include the link to your patch, yes, so that other developers have access to it?
>Dan -- What do you think? Good idea?
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Tomas Carnecky <tom at dbservice.com>
>>Sent: Mar 18, 2008 5:14 PM
>>To: Susan Cragin <susancragin at earthlink.net>
>>Cc: wine-devel at winehq.org
>>Subject: Re: Hardy Heron -- Pulseaudio interferes with non-gnome audio
>>Susan Cragin wrote:
>>> The new default pulseaudio in Hardy screws up every program that isn't gnome, delivering terrible sound. 
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/198453
>>Applications that use ALSA should work fine with the alsa pulse plugin - 
>>  should. Unfortunately the plugin has a few bugs, and the developers 
>>(of both pulseaudio and alsa) have been unresponsive in this matter. See
>>  - http://www.pulseaudio.org/ticket/198
>>  - https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601
>>> Question -- what does WINE do with pulseaudio?
>>Some suggested to create a native PulseAudio wine driver. That would 
>>yield the best results as far as the performance and reliability goes. 
>>Unfortunately we'll be stuck with the alsa driver for some time to come, 
>>so I tried to do the best to make the alsa pulse plugin to work with 
>>wine. I had to patch both the wine alsa driver as well as the alsa pulse 
>>plugin and it worked fine for my taste.
>>I submitted the patch to wine-patches:
>>I don't know if the relevant alsa pulse plugin patch is publicly 
>>available, I haven't looked at that matter in a long time. Some of the 
>>needed patches are probably still in my local repositories. It makes no 
>>sense for me to work on this anymore until the developers respond to my 
>>> http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=112021
>>I heard that the skype developers are very interested in getting skype 
>>working with pulseaudio, even helped tisting some patches. I have gotten 
>>skype to work with pulseaudio, I think if you apply the second patch 
>>attached to alsa bug #2601 skype will work. I haven't looked at the code 
>>since because apparently nobody from the alsa team is interested in 
>>fixing the bug.

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