do ERR messages imply bugs?

Vincent Povirk madewokherd+8cd9 at
Sun Apr 12 17:46:06 CDT 2009

On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Ben Klein <shacklein at> wrote:
> 2009/4/13 Vincent Povirk <madewokherd+8cd9 at>:
>> But the description doesn't say "invalid conditions". It says "serious
>> errors in Wine". That's something that should never happen in tests,
>> as it would imply that the state of the libraries we're testing (and
>> thus the test) is invalid.
> How about "serious errors in Wine, or in the test cases, sometimes
> deliberate errors in the tests"? As Vitaliy points out, some tests
> deliberately do invalid things to make sure they fail. We can't ONLY
> test on things that succeed!

I'm not against changing the description. If it's OK to have err
messages for cases that we know fail (but don't crash or prevent the
library from continuing to function), then the Developer's Guide is
wrong and should be changed. I also don't care how long it takes to
make the change, as long as there's a consensus that it's the guide
that's wrong and not the reality of what's in Wine.

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