do ERR messages imply bugs?

Ben Klein shacklein at
Sun Apr 12 19:10:23 CDT 2009

2009/4/13 chris ahrendt <celticht32 at>:
> Vincent Povirk wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Ben Klein <shacklein at> wrote:
>>> 2009/4/13 Vincent Povirk <madewokherd+8cd9 at>:
>>>> But the description doesn't say "invalid conditions". It says "serious
>>>> errors in Wine". That's something that should never happen in tests,
>>>> as it would imply that the state of the libraries we're testing (and
>>>> thus the test) is invalid.
>>> How about "serious errors in Wine, or in the test cases, sometimes
>>> deliberate errors in the tests"? As Vitaliy points out, some tests
>>> deliberately do invalid things to make sure they fail. We can't ONLY
>>> test on things that succeed!
>> I'm not against changing the description. If it's OK to have err
>> messages for cases that we know fail (but don't crash or prevent the
>> library from continuing to function), then the Developer's Guide is
>> wrong and should be changed. I also don't care how long it takes to
>> make the change, as long as there's a consensus that it's the guide
>> that's wrong and not the reality of what's in Wine.
> This is EXACTLY the point I am trying to get to.. if they are normal and not
> ERRORS but warnings then they should be thus and noted in the developers
> guide. Right now Wine isn't even following its own guidelines in this case.

No. Not warnings. Errors. They are errors. There is no way to
distinguish an error caused by a real application from an error caused
by a Wine test.

If you don't like it, run all your tests with WINEDEBUG=-all.

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