Are we the reason Apple isn't helping us?

[Vitaliy Margolen]

First of all that me address your subject:
I really doubt Apple will ever help Wine, regardless what happens on our 
bugzilla. Apple have pretty specific predisposition to open source and they 
sure won't change it because of one unsuccessful bug report.

On 03/10/2012 09:33 PM, Charles Davis wrote:

> In your defense, I realize that Vitaliy's behavior is not representative
> of Wine developers as a whole, and that Jeremy's behavior wasn't exactly
> golden, either. I also realize that there really is no build breakage
> resulting from the bug, because we don't include any Objective-C headers. He
> was convinced that there could have been breakage, however. You--AJ, I'm
> talking to you in particular--did not adequately explain to him why this
> didn't break the build. Instead, you--Vitaliy in particular--practically
> yelled at him--for trying to help! By this point, he's likely told his
> colleagues at Apple about his experience. With guys like Vitaliy developing
> Wine, is it any wonder Apple doesn't want to help? Are we, the developers,
> the real reason Apple isn't contributing? For that matter, are we the real
> reason more people *in general* aren't contributing?
Can you show me exactly where did I yell at him? Or where I wasn't polite 
enough in explaining that his behavior on _our_ bugzilla is not appropriate 
and he either sticks to it, or don't report bugs to us anymore?

When everyone, including AJ telling the person "what you reporting is not an 
error from our POV, unless you can come up with a broken application, a test 
program/code, or any other proof on a contrary we deem such bugs invalid." 
This was the rule of our bugzilla for years. I hope this does not require 
yet another explanation why.

And one last thing, all I did is to stop an endless reopening of that bug. 
If you think there is/was another way to make Jeremy understand why that bug 
was invalid lets hear it.

Vitaliy.