[PATCH 1/4] include: Add xact.idl
Ethan Lee
flibitijibibo at flibitijibibo.com
Wed Jan 22 08:35:00 CST 2020
I believe this is the very last version of what I had:
https://gist.github.com/flibitijibibo/2c8fb8b7fa730a23fcf47a4deaf47792
-Ethan
On 1/22/20 09:27, Andrew Eikum wrote:
> This seems to be based on an older version of Ethan's IDL file. He
> and I had done some private iteration. Ethan, Alistair is trying to
> upstream the xactengine work, can you get him the latest version?
>
> One thing to check over is these structs are awkwardly laid out with
> width specifiers, e.g. WAVEBANKMINIWAVEFORMAT:
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/bb206350%28v%3dvs.85%29
>
> We should make sure they're correctly defined in our IDL (I think many
> are wrong). I don't know if our IDL parser handles width specifiers
> like that. If they're hard to get correct, and we don't use them, then
> maybe it's better to just leave them out entirely.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 12:12:10AM +0000, Alistair Leslie-Hughes wrote:
>> From: Ethan Lee <elee at codeweavers.com>
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Alistair Leslie-Hughes <leslie_alistair at hotmail.com>
>> ---
>> include/Makefile.in | 1 +
>> include/xact3.idl | 560 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> 2 files changed, 561 insertions(+)
>> create mode 100644 include/xact3.idl
>>
>> diff --git a/include/Makefile.in b/include/Makefile.in
>> index 8284d6fdf3..01fc25ebf8 100644
>> --- a/include/Makefile.in
>> +++ b/include/Makefile.in
>> @@ -772,6 +772,7 @@ SOURCES = \
>> wtypes.idl \
>> wuapi.idl \
>> x3daudio.h \
>> + xact3.idl \
>> xapo.idl \
>> xapofx.h \
>> xaudio2.idl \
>> diff --git a/include/xact3.idl b/include/xact3.idl
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 0000000000..eaab56203c
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/include/xact3.idl
>> @@ -0,0 +1,560 @@
>> +/*
>> + * Copyright (c) 2018 Ethan Lee for CodeWeavers
>> + *
>> + * This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
>> + * modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
>> + * License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either
>> + * version 2.1 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
>> + *
>> + * This library is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
>> + * but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
>> + * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU
>> + * Lesser General Public License for more details.
>> + *
>> + * You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public
>> + * License along with this library; if not, write to the Free Software
>> + * Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin St, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301, USA
>> + */
>> +
>> +import "unknwn.idl";
>> +import "xaudio2.idl";
>> +
>> +[
>> + uuid(bcc782bc-6492-4c22-8c35-f5d72fe73c6e)
>> +]
>> +coclass XACTEngine
>> +{
>> + interface IUnknown;
>> +}
>> +
>> +interface IXACT3Engine;
>> +interface IXACT3SoundBank;
>> +interface IXACT3WaveBank;
>> +interface IXACT3Cue;
>> +interface IXACT3Wave;
>> +
>> +typedef WORD XACTCATEGORY;
>> +typedef BYTE XACTCHANNEL;
>> +typedef WORD XACTINDEX;
>> +typedef BYTE XACTINSTANCELIMIT;
>> +typedef BYTE XACTLOOPCOUNT;
>> +typedef BYTE XACTNOTIFICATIONTYPE;
>> +typedef SHORT XACTPITCH;
>> +typedef LONG XACTTIME;
>> +typedef WORD XACTVARIABLEINDEX;
>> +typedef FLOAT XACTVARIABLEVALUE;
>> +typedef BYTE XACTVARIATIONWEIGHT;
>> +typedef FLOAT XACTVOLUME;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_RENDERER_DETAILS
>> +{
>> + WCHAR rendererID[0xFF];
>> + WCHAR displayName[0xFF];
>> + BOOL defaultDevice;
>> +} XACT_RENDERER_DETAILS;
>> +
>> +typedef BOOL (__stdcall *XACT_READFILE_CALLBACK)(
>> + HANDLE hFile,
>> + LPVOID lpBuffer,
>> + DWORD nNumberOfBytesRead,
>> + LPDWORD lpNumberOfBytesRead,
>> + void* lpOverlapped
>> +);
>> +typedef BOOL (__stdcall *XACT_GETOVERLAPPEDRESULT_CALLBACK)(
>> + HANDLE hFile,
>> + void* lpOverlapped,
>> + LPDWORD lpNumberOfBytesTransferred,
>> + BOOL bWait
>> +);
>> +typedef struct XACT_FILEIO_CALLBACKS
>> +{
>> + BYTE* readFileCallback; /* FIXME: XACT_READFILE_CALLBACK */
>> + BYTE* getOverlappedResultCallback; /* FIXME: XACT_GETOVERLAPPEDRESULT_CALLBACK */
>> +} XACT_FILEIO_CALLBACKS;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_NOTIFICATION XACT_NOTIFICATION;
>> +typedef void (__stdcall *XACT_NOTIFICATION_CALLBACK)(
>> + const XACT_NOTIFICATION *pNotification
>> +);
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_RUNTIME_PARAMETERS
>> +{
>> + DWORD lookAheadTime;
>> + BYTE* pGlobalSettingsBuffer; /* FIXME: void* */
>> + DWORD globalSettingsBufferSize;
>> + DWORD globalSettingsFlags;
>> + DWORD globalSettingsAllocAttributes;
>> + XACT_FILEIO_CALLBACKS fileIOCallbacks;
>> + BYTE* fnNotificationCallback; /* FIXME: XACT_NOTIFICATION_CALLBACK */
>> + LPCWSTR pRendererID;
>> + IXAudio2 *pXAudio2;
>> + IXAudio2MasteringVoice *pMasteringVoice;
>> +} XACT_RUNTIME_PARAMETERS;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_STREAMING_PARAMETERS
>> +{
>> + BYTE* file; /* FIXME: HANDLE */
>> + DWORD offset;
>> + DWORD flags;
>> + WORD packetSize;
>> +} XACT_STREAMING_PARAMETERS;
>> +
>> +cpp_quote("#include <pshpack1.h>")
>> +
>> +typedef struct WAVEBANKREGION
>> +{
>> + DWORD dwOffset;
>> + DWORD dwLength;
>> +} WAVEBANKREGION;
>> +
>> +typedef struct WAVEBANKSAMPLEREGION
>> +{
>> + DWORD dwStartSample;
>> + DWORD dwTotalSamples;
>> +} WAVEBANKSAMPLEREGION;
>> +
>> +typedef union WAVEBANKMINIWAVEFORMAT
>> +{
>> + union /* struct */
>> + {
>> + DWORD wFormatTag; /* : 2; */
>> + DWORD nChannels; /* : 3; */
>> + DWORD nSamplesPerSec; /* : 18; */
>> + DWORD wBlockAlign; /* : 8; */
>> + DWORD wBitsPerSample; /* : 1; */
>> + } NONAMELESSUNION;
>> + DWORD dwValue;
>> +} WAVEBANKMINIWAVEFORMAT;
>> +
>> +typedef struct WAVEBANKENTRY
>> +{
>> + union
>> + {
>> + union /* struct */
>> + {
>> + DWORD dwFlags; /* : 4; */
>> + DWORD Duration; /* : 28; */
>> + } NONAMELESSUNION;
>> + DWORD dwFlagsAndDuration;
>> + };
>> + WAVEBANKMINIWAVEFORMAT Format;
>> + WAVEBANKREGION PlayRegion;
>> + WAVEBANKSAMPLEREGION LoopRegion;
>> +} WAVEBANKENTRY;
>> +
>> +cpp_quote("#include <poppack.h>")
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_WAVE_PROPERTIES
>> +{
>> + char friendlyName[64];
>> + WAVEBANKMINIWAVEFORMAT format;
>> + DWORD durationInSamples;
>> + WAVEBANKSAMPLEREGION loopRegion;
>> + BOOL streaming;
>> +} XACT_WAVE_PROPERTIES;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_WAVE_INSTANCE_PROPERTIES
>> +{
>> + XACT_WAVE_PROPERTIES waveProperties; /* FIXME: 'properties' */
>> + BOOL backgroundMusic;
>> +} XACT_WAVE_INSTANCE_PROPERTIES;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_CUE_PROPERTIES
>> +{
>> + char friendlyName[0xFF];
>> + BOOL interactive;
>> + XACTINDEX iaVariableIndex;
>> + XACTINDEX numVariations;
>> + XACTINSTANCELIMIT maxInstances;
>> + XACTINSTANCELIMIT currentInstances;
>> +} XACT_CUE_PROPERTIES;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_TRACK_PROPERTIES
>> +{
>> + XACTTIME duration;
>> + XACTINDEX numVariations;
>> + XACTCHANNEL numChannels;
>> + XACTINDEX waveVariation;
>> + XACTLOOPCOUNT loopCount;
>> +} XACT_TRACK_PROPERTIES;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_VARIATION_PROPERTIES
>> +{
>> + XACTINDEX index;
>> + XACTVARIATIONWEIGHT weight;
>> + XACTVARIABLEVALUE iaVariableMin;
>> + XACTVARIABLEVALUE iaVariableMax;
>> + BOOL linger;
>> +} XACT_VARIATION_PROPERTIES;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_SOUND_PROPERTIES
>> +{
>> + XACTCATEGORY category;
>> + BYTE priority;
>> + XACTPITCH pitch;
>> + XACTVOLUME volume;
>> + XACTINDEX numTracks;
>> + XACT_TRACK_PROPERTIES arrTrackProperties[1];
>> +} XACT_SOUND_PROPERTIES;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_SOUND_VARIATION_PROPERTIES
>> +{
>> + XACT_VARIATION_PROPERTIES variationProperties;
>> + XACT_SOUND_PROPERTIES soundProperties;
>> +} XACT_SOUND_VARIATION_PROPERTIES;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_CUE_INSTANCE_PROPERTIES
>> +{
>> + DWORD allocAttributes;
>> + XACT_CUE_PROPERTIES cueProperties;
>> + XACT_SOUND_VARIATION_PROPERTIES activeVariationProperties;
>> +} XACT_CUE_INSTANCE_PROPERTIES;
>> +
>> +cpp_quote("#include <pshpack1.h>")
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_NOTIFICATION_DESCRIPTION
>> +{
>> + XACTNOTIFICATIONTYPE type;
>> + BYTE flags;
>> + IXACT3SoundBank *pSoundBank;
>> + IXACT3WaveBank *pWaveBank;
>> + IXACT3Cue *pCue;
>> + IXACT3Wave *pWave;
>> + XACTINDEX cueIndex;
>> + XACTINDEX waveIndex;
>> + BYTE* pvContext; /* FIXME: LPVOID */
>> +} XACT_NOTIFICATION_DESCRIPTION;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_NOTIFICATION_CUE
>> +{
>> + XACTINDEX cueIndex;
>> + IXACT3SoundBank *pSoundBank;
>> + IXACT3Cue *pCue;
>> +} XACT_NOTIFICATION_CUE;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_NOTIFICATION_MARKER
>> +{
>> + XACTINDEX cueIndex;
>> + IXACT3SoundBank *pSoundBank;
>> + IXACT3Cue *pCue;
>> + DWORD marker;
>> +} XACT_NOTIFICATION_MARKER;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_NOTIFICATION_SOUNDBANK
>> +{
>> + IXACT3SoundBank *pSoundBank;
>> +} XACT_NOTIFICATION_SOUNDBANK;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_NOTIFICATION_WAVEBANK
>> +{
>> + IXACT3WaveBank *pWaveBank;
>> +} XACT_NOTIFICATION_WAVEBANK;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_NOTIFICATION_VARIABLE
>> +{
>> + XACTINDEX cueIndex;
>> + IXACT3SoundBank *pSoundBank;
>> + IXACT3Cue *pCue;
>> + XACTVARIABLEINDEX variableIndex;
>> + XACTVARIABLEVALUE variableValue;
>> + BOOL local;
>> +} XACT_NOTIFICATION_VARIABLE;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_NOTIFICATION_GUI
>> +{
>> + DWORD reserved;
>> +} XACT_NOTIFICATION_GUI;
>> +
>> +typedef struct XACT_NOTIFICATION_WAVE
>> +{
>> + IXACT3WaveBank *pWaveBank;
>> + XACTINDEX waveIndex;
>> + XACTINDEX cueIndex;
>> + IXACT3SoundBank *pSoundBank;
>> + IXACT3Cue *pCue;
>> + IXACT3Wave *pWave;
>> +} XACT_NOTIFICATION_WAVE;
>> +
>> +struct XACT_NOTIFICATION
>> +{
>> + XACTNOTIFICATIONTYPE type;
>> + LONG timeStamp;
>> + PVOID pvContext;
>> + union
>> + {
>> + XACT_NOTIFICATION_CUE cue;
>> + XACT_NOTIFICATION_MARKER marker;
>> + XACT_NOTIFICATION_SOUNDBANK soundBank;
>> + XACT_NOTIFICATION_WAVEBANK waveBank;
>> + XACT_NOTIFICATION_VARIABLE variable;
>> + XACT_NOTIFICATION_GUI gui;
>> + XACT_NOTIFICATION_WAVE wave;
>> + };
>> +};
>> +
>> +cpp_quote("#include <poppack.h>")
>> +
>> +static const XACTNOTIFICATIONTYPE XACTNOTIFICATIONTYPE_CUEDESTROYED = 4;
>> +static const XACTNOTIFICATIONTYPE XACTNOTIFICATIONTYPE_SOUNDBANKDESTROYED = 6;
>> +static const XACTNOTIFICATIONTYPE XACTNOTIFICATIONTYPE_WAVEBANKDESTROYED = 7;
>> +static const XACTNOTIFICATIONTYPE XACTNOTIFICATIONTYPE_WAVEDESTROYED = 16;
>> +
>> +[
>> + object,
>> + uuid(b1ee676a-d9cd-4d2a-89a8-fa53eb9e480b),
>> +]
>> +interface IXACT3Engine : IUnknown
>> +{
>> + HRESULT GetRendererCount([out] XACTINDEX *pnRendererCount);
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetRendererDetails(
>> + XACTINDEX nRendererIndex,
>> + [out] XACT_RENDERER_DETAILS *pRendererDetails);
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetFinalMixFormat([out] WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE *pFinalMixFormat);
>> +
>> + HRESULT Initialize([in] const XACT_RUNTIME_PARAMETERS *pParams);
>> +
>> + HRESULT ShutDown();
>> +
>> + HRESULT DoWork();
>> +
>> + HRESULT CreateSoundBank(
>> + [in] const BYTE* pvBuffer, /* FIXME: void* */
>> + DWORD dwSize,
>> + DWORD dwFlags,
>> + DWORD dwAllocAttributes,
>> + [out] IXACT3SoundBank **ppSoundBank);
>> +
>> + HRESULT CreateInMemoryWaveBank(
>> + [in] const BYTE* pvBuffer, /* FIXME: void* */
>> + DWORD dwSize,
>> + DWORD dwFlags,
>> + DWORD dwAllocAttributes,
>> + [out] IXACT3WaveBank **ppWaveBank);
>> +
>> + HRESULT CreateStreamingWaveBank(
>> + [in] const XACT_STREAMING_PARAMETERS *pParms,
>> + [out] IXACT3WaveBank **ppWaveBank);
>> +
>> + HRESULT PrepareWave(
>> + DWORD dwFlags,
>> + [in] LPCSTR szWavePath,
>> + WORD wStreamingPacketSize,
>> + DWORD dwAlignment,
>> + DWORD dwPlayOffset,
>> + XACTLOOPCOUNT nLoopCount,
>> + [out] IXACT3Wave **ppWave);
>> +
>> + HRESULT PrepareInMemoryWave(
>> + DWORD dwFlags,
>> + WAVEBANKENTRY entry,
>> + [in] DWORD *pdwSeekTable,
>> + [in] BYTE *pbWaveData,
>> + DWORD dwPlayOffset,
>> + XACTLOOPCOUNT nLoopCount,
>> + [out] IXACT3Wave **ppWave);
>> +
>> + HRESULT PrepareStreamingWave(
>> + DWORD dwFlags,
>> + WAVEBANKENTRY entry,
>> + XACT_STREAMING_PARAMETERS streamingParams,
>> + DWORD dwAlignment,
>> + [in] DWORD *pdwSeekTable,
>> + DWORD dwPlayOffset,
>> + XACTLOOPCOUNT nLoopCount,
>> + [out] IXACT3Wave **ppWave);
>> +
>> + HRESULT RegisterNotification(
>> + [in] const XACT_NOTIFICATION_DESCRIPTION *pNotificationDesc);
>> +
>> + HRESULT UnRegisterNotification(
>> + [in] const XACT_NOTIFICATION_DESCRIPTION *pNotificationDesc);
>> +
>> + XACTCATEGORY GetCategory(
>> + [in] LPCSTR szFriendlyName);
>> +
>> + HRESULT Stop(XACTCATEGORY nCategory, DWORD dwFlags);
>> +
>> + HRESULT SetVolume(XACTCATEGORY nCategory, XACTVOLUME nVolume);
>> +
>> + HRESULT Pause(XACTCATEGORY nCategory, BOOL fPause);
>> +
>> + XACTVARIABLEINDEX GetGlobalVariableIndex([in] LPCSTR szFriendlyName);
>> +
>> + HRESULT SetGlobalVariable(
>> + XACTVARIABLEINDEX nIndex,
>> + XACTVARIABLEVALUE nValue);
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetGlobalVariable(
>> + XACTVARIABLEINDEX nIndex,
>> + [out] XACTVARIABLEVALUE *nValue);
>> +}
>> +
>> +[
>> + object,
>> + local
>> +]
>> +interface IXACT3SoundBank
>> +{
>> + XACTINDEX GetCueIndex([in] LPCSTR szFriendlyName);
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetNumCues([out] XACTINDEX *pnNumCues);
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetCueProperties(
>> + XACTINDEX nCueIndex,
>> + [out] XACT_CUE_PROPERTIES *pProperties);
>> +
>> + HRESULT Prepare(
>> + XACTINDEX nCueIndex,
>> + DWORD dwFlags,
>> + XACTTIME timeOffset,
>> + [out] IXACT3Cue **ppCue);
>> +
>> + HRESULT Play(
>> + XACTINDEX nCueIndex,
>> + DWORD dwFlags,
>> + XACTTIME timeOffset,
>> + [out] IXACT3Cue **ppCue);
>> +
>> + HRESULT Stop(XACTINDEX nCueIndex, DWORD dwFlags);
>> +
>> + HRESULT Destroy();
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetState([out] DWORD *pdwState);
>> +}
>> +
>> +[
>> + object,
>> + local
>> +]
>> +interface IXACT3WaveBank
>> +{
>> + HRESULT Destroy();
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetNumWaves([out] XACTINDEX *pnNumWaves);
>> +
>> + XACTINDEX GetWaveIndex([in] LPCSTR szFriendlyName);
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetWaveProperties(
>> + XACTINDEX nWaveIndex,
>> + [out] XACT_WAVE_PROPERTIES *pWaveProperties);
>> +
>> + HRESULT Prepare(
>> + XACTINDEX nWaveIndex,
>> + DWORD dwFlags,
>> + DWORD dwPlayOffset,
>> + XACTLOOPCOUNT nLoopCount,
>> + [out] IXACT3Wave **ppWave);
>> +
>> + HRESULT Play(
>> + XACTINDEX nWaveIndex,
>> + DWORD dwFlags,
>> + DWORD dwPlayOffset,
>> + XACTLOOPCOUNT nLoopCount,
>> + [out] IXACT3Wave **ppWave);
>> +
>> + HRESULT Stop(XACTINDEX nWaveIndex, DWORD dwFlags);
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetState([out] DWORD *pdwState);
>> +}
>> +
>> +[
>> + object,
>> + local
>> +]
>> +interface IXACT34Cue
>> +{
>> + HRESULT Play();
>> +
>> + HRESULT Stop(DWORD dwFlags);
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetState([out] DWORD *pdwState);
>> +
>> + HRESULT Destroy();
>> +
>> + HRESULT SetMatrixCoefficients(
>> + UINT32 uSrcChannelCount,
>> + UINT32 uDstChannelCount,
>> + [in] float *pMatrixCoefficients);
>> +
>> + XACTVARIABLEINDEX GetVariableIndex([in] LPCSTR szFriendlyName);
>> +
>> + HRESULT SetVariable(XACTVARIABLEINDEX nIndex, XACTVARIABLEVALUE nValue);
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetVariable(
>> + XACTVARIABLEINDEX nIndex,
>> + [out] XACTVARIABLEVALUE *nValue);
>> +
>> + HRESULT Pause(BOOL fPause);
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetProperties([out] XACT_CUE_INSTANCE_PROPERTIES **ppProperties);
>> +}
>> +
>> +[
>> + object,
>> + local
>> +]
>> +interface IXACT3Cue
>> +{
>> + HRESULT Play();
>> +
>> + HRESULT Stop(DWORD dwFlags);
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetState([out] DWORD *pdwState);
>> +
>> + HRESULT Destroy();
>> +
>> + HRESULT SetMatrixCoefficients(
>> + UINT32 uSrcChannelCount,
>> + UINT32 uDstChannelCount,
>> + [in] float *pMatrixCoefficients);
>> +
>> + XACTVARIABLEINDEX GetVariableIndex([in] LPCSTR szFriendlyName);
>> +
>> + HRESULT SetVariable(XACTVARIABLEINDEX nIndex, XACTVARIABLEVALUE nValue);
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetVariable(
>> + XACTVARIABLEINDEX nIndex,
>> + [out] XACTVARIABLEVALUE *nValue);
>> +
>> + HRESULT Pause(BOOL fPause);
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetProperties([out] XACT_CUE_INSTANCE_PROPERTIES **ppProperties);
>> +
>> + HRESULT SetOutputVoices([in] const XAUDIO2_VOICE_SENDS *pSendList);
>> +
>> + HRESULT SetOutputVoiceMatrix(
>> + [in] IXAudio2Voice *pDestinationVoice,
>> + UINT32 SourceChannels,
>> + UINT32 DestinationChannels,
>> + [in, size_is(SourceChannels * DestinationChannels)] const float *pLevelMatrix);
>> +}
>> +
>> +[
>> + object,
>> + local
>> +]
>> +interface IXACT3Wave
>> +{
>> + HRESULT Destroy();
>> +
>> + HRESULT Play();
>> +
>> + HRESULT Stop(DWORD dwFlags);
>> +
>> + HRESULT Pause(BOOL fPause);
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetState([out] DWORD *pdwState);
>> +
>> + HRESULT SetPitch(XACTPITCH pitch);
>> +
>> + HRESULT SetVolume(XACTVOLUME volume);
>> +
>> + HRESULT SetMatrixCoefficients(
>> + UINT32 uSrcChannelCount,
>> + UINT32 uDstChannelCount,
>> + [in] float *pMatrixCoefficients);
>> +
>> + HRESULT GetProperties([out] XACT_WAVE_INSTANCE_PROPERTIES *pProperties);
>> +}
>> --
>> 2.24.1
>>
>>
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