[PATCH 1/7] winemenubuilder: Change blacklist to a more neutral word
Jeff Smith
whydoubt at gmail.com
Tue Jun 16 17:38:21 CDT 2020
TLDR: "denylist" as a noun seems fine, but verbed
("denylisted") is still a bit unusual. Something like "denied"
or "in_denylist" might work.
Apologies in advance for going language-geek on this...
Some of this comes down to how compound words are built.
The original word was (adjective + noun) to make a compound
noun. Of course, it is also commonly used as a verb.
Compounding "x" with "list" where "x" is a _verb_ has the sense
of "list of things to x". I can't think of a clean rule to morph a
verb from this. You could just use the appropriate tense of the
root verb or use multiple words.
Still not sure why "list" needs to be in it, since I don't think we
actually care about the structure. As for having the sense of a
predetermined list, "ban" seems like a good choice (many libraries
have a _banned_ book list). "Deny" or "reject" may imply a more
subtle or complex decision process (_denied_ credit, _rejection_
letter from a job or a school).
I would love to hear others' thoughts. I know a lot of my rambling
is bound to be very subjective.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 2:08 PM André Hentschel <nerv at dawncrow.de> wrote:
>
> Am 16.06.20 um 18:33 schrieb Jeff Smith:
> > The word "block" is an overloaded term, so "blocklist" is ambiguous and
> > awkward. If we're going to replace a word, let's at least come up with
> > a _good_ alternative. I would also point out that the word does not
> > necessarily have to contain "list".
> >
> > Looking at the thesaurus gives a few reasonable ideas, though which is
> > 'best' may vary from case to case. I have grouped these in what I feel
> > is the most forceful (1) to least forceful (3) in tone. To get the
> > same intent, it is probably best to stick with (1) or (2).
> > 1. ban, banlist
> > 2. exclude, reject, deny
> > 3. avoid, ignore
>
> Thanks for your input as well! What about denylist? I'd somehow like to keep the "list" word...
>
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