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[M-Halo]

True...  I think as long as we try to keep in good
spirits - especially with newbies - we'll be in good
shape.  Though, you do have a point: newbies that
become dependant (instead of building on their
knowledge to become more advanced) can be problematic
- but we can't assume that every newbie will be this
way. :S :P :)

Hiji

--- michael at cherryblossom.homelinux.com wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 04:21:43PM -0700, M-Halo
> wrote:
> > >As they say, RTFM.
> > 
> > Just a million pennys worth of advice: with Wine
> > bridging the gap between Windows users and Linux
> > users, that saying (while still relevant) will
> > probably become less desirable to tell people. ;)
> 
> Thanks for the advice.
>  
> > So, as people come in from the Windows world,
> we're
> 
> Eh heh.  I just came in from the Windows world last
> December or last
> fall, and I've already started the RTFM junk.  I'm
> too impatient,
> sleep-deprived, and self-taught.  Sorry!
> 
> > going to have to be a bit more patient with them,
> and
> > in fact, have to help them take those baby steps. 
> 
> I always thought that's what Red Hat, Corel and SuSe
> installers and
> Linux Idiots and Dummies books were for, but...
> 
> > Otherwise, they're get turned off by the Linux
> > community and choose to go back the Windows world.
> 
> 
> That brings in the concept introduced by QEMU and
> the like - a Windows
> world inside Linux.  *shrugs*  Problem is, nowadays,
> 70 or 80% of
> Windows users have never seen a text-mode console
> (especially now that
> it's so well hidden in XP) and 5-30 % or so would
> have problems figuring
> out the Linux (i.e. ext2/3) filesystem structure,
> lack of MS-DOS
> shortforms for long names (i.e substuting an 8
> character string for a
> 256 character one), and case sensitivity.  (Those
> would be easer though,
> for people who post onto Unix/Linux based web
> servers, since they have
> experience putting files on such a system.)  Others
> don't know what to
> do when they see even the most simplest errors, or
> want to read
> documentation on a new system.  *sigh*  The problems
> of human nature...
> 
> If we had 50% of people running Windows inside QEMU
> or similar inside
> Linux, would we be able to say that these people ran
> Linux?
> 
> > Yes, the saying is still relevant, but it is a bit
> > harsh. :)
> 
> Do you think we need to rewrite the acronym RTFM? I
> dunno, like saying,
> something kind, simple and short along the lines of
> "Have you read the
> manual?"?
> 
> Some windows users also have problems sometimes with
> people being "nice"
> to them -- customer support and user support groups
> tell them redundant
> things that they already know and/or have tried 100
> times just so they
> can say they tried.  I had that issue.  Once, I had
> trouble connecting
> to a couple sites through my ISP -- it turned out to
> be some bad DNS
> caching in a file locally on my machine, but I kept
> trying the same
> things for about a year or two (reinstall Windows
> DUN) with no results
> before it got resolved.
> 
> > 
> > Peace out,
> > Hiji
> > 
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> Again, sorry, and whoops.
> --Michael Chang
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