[Wine]Newbie: Running an application within wine (installed fine)

[דותן כהן]

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 23:12:42 +0100, Holly Bostick <motub at planet.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
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> דותן כהן wrote:
> > I just tried- nothing. I just sit and wait. No output, nothing.
> >
> > Where is this menu link that you mention? I see none in the KDE menu,
> > is this the menu that you mean?
> 
> I'm using wine 20050111 with SuSE 9.2, and I was surprised as well when
> I installed Planescape: Torment and suddenly I had a Wine folder in the
> KDE menu, with a link to the program, with an icon, even (!!!).
> 
> I have to assume this is a new functionality of Wine, or possibly a
> "special" quality related to SuSE (which loves KDE a great deal, and
> integrates a lot of 'internal functions' with it). If a new function of
> Wine, then perhaps an upgrade will enable it; if specific to the SuSE
> package, then I'm just lucky :-) .
> 
> In any case, the fact that this lovely link exists yet does not work for
> me (I had to write a little shell script that cds to the program
> directory, then runs the main executable with wine, otherwise the
> program gives an error and will not start) is of no use to you if your
> program will not start nor give output even when started directly from
> within the program's install folder.
> 
> However, the fact that it isn't working could be due to a couple of factors:
> 
> 1) How are you stopping the process when the program fails to start? Is
> there possibly a wineserver still running from a previous failed
> attempt? Please check a process monitor such as KDE System Guard and
> kill any wineservers or leftover running Wine processes before trying
> again to run the program from its install directory.
> 
> 2) The fact that no output whatsoever is being produced is suspicious,
> insofar as it suggests that the program is not crashing (in which case
> there would be output of some sort), but stuck somewhere along the way
> to running.
> 
> Does this program need to contact some external device such as a scanner
> or camera before starting?
> 
> You are running these commands from a terminal, correct?
> 
> HTH,
> Holly
> 
> 
> >
> > Dotan
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 22:23:36 +0100, Holly Bostick <motub at planet.nl> wrote:
> >>��ת� ��� wrote:
> >>>I had successfully installed BrilliantPhoto with wine, so that I have
> >>>the directory:
> >>>file:/home/dotancohen/.wine/c/Program Files/Brilliant Labs/BrilliantPhoto
> >>>but when I run the command
> >>>wine /home/dotancohen/.wine/c/Program\ Files/Brilliant\
> >>>Labs/BrilliantPhoto/BrilliantPhoto.exe
> >>>it justs sits there with no output until I ctrl-Z it. Silly me, I even
> >>>tried to click the icon in Konqueror to start the program (I can start
> >>>IE6 this way).
> >>>
> >>>I just installed wine (with apt, version 20041201) and winetools
> >>>within the last few hours, and between what I've see on this list the
> >>>past few weeks (I subscribed in December) and google, well, I know
> >>>nothing! I'm on Fedora Core 3 in KDE on a AMD Duron 1 ghz machine with
> >>>512mb ram and a noisy fan.
> >>>
> >>>Thank you in advance!
> >>>
> >>>Dotan Cohen
> >>Some programs don't like to run via a full path; what happens if you cd
> >>to the Brilliant Photo directory first, then run
> >>
> >>wine BrilliantPhoto.exe
> >>
> >>?
> >>
> >>I have a couple of apps that run fine when the app is run from within
> >>the program directory, but fail to run otherwise (even from the program
> >>menu link created by Wine during the program's install).
> >>
> >>HTH,
> >>Holly


As per your suggestion, my reply is 'to all' and my response is at the bottom!

To kill the program I am 'Ctrl-Z'ing it- I see no other way of
stopping it. I ckecked 'jobs' before I tried this time, but nothing
showed up (no jobs)

[dotancohen at ety ~]$ jobs
[dotancohen at ety ~]$ 

I find this interesting. I do have Kmail and Firefox running, so why
do I not have any jobs? I have wondered this before, that the only
jobs I see are those that I start in the terminal. I SYSQUITed
wineserver and about 7 or 8  winepreloaders in KDE system guard before
proceeding, but no change in status: no output, no nothing.

Just a thought, the fact that there are spaces in the path may be
causing the problem? The path looks like this:
/home/dotancohen/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Brilliant Labs/BrilliantPhoto

and when I cd into it I have to do it like this:
cd /home/dotancohen/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Brilliant\ Labs/BrilliantPhoto

Note the backslashes before the spaces. If I just change the names,
will I break anything? As this is a program that installed correctly
from the exe that I downloaded, I do not know if there is anything
'linking' to the file that depends on the full path, that means, the
path as it is now, with spaces. I had recently seen a post on the list
where Program FIles was programfiles. Is this a good idea?

Also, I am very unfamiliar with linux logs, but I think that would be
a good place to see where things went wrong (according to other
why-doesnt-this-work posts in other mailing lists). I did not see a
wine log file in /var/log or in /home/dotancohen/.wine/ only a
winetools.log that had nothing relevant. Where are the wine logs?

(I googled for 'wine logs linux' and "wine logs' to no avail. There
ARE logs, no?!?)

Thank you Holly and anybody else that could assist me. I really do
appreciate the time you dedicate to guiding and teaching us 'newbies'.
This is how we learn.

Dotan