[Wine] RFD: create new list and forum 'wine-newbies'
David Shaw
dj.shaw at btconnect.com
Mon Mar 24 07:08:30 CDT 2008
James Hawkins wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Dan Kegel <dank at kegel.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 8:57 PM, oiaohm <wineforum-user at winehq.org> wrote:
>> > wine-newbies could be taken as insulting by some people.
>>
>> Context is important. I think we could phrase the group description
>> well enough so nobody takes the name as an insult. For instance:
>>
>> wine-newbies: For people new to life without Windows, or those who
>> want to help them.
>> wine-users: For people who have already run an app or two successfully in Wine
>>
>>
>
> Besides filing bug reports for apps that don't work, what types of
> messages would be in wine-users under this scheme? Wine is relatively
> simple enough that, once you figure out how to run it, there's not
> much left to figure out for the average user. If we do create this
> new mailing list, which I seriously hope we don't, you're going to
> find the traffic in wine-users drop to close to nil, and the ones that
> do post to wine-users will just be told to file a bug report. The
> point is that wine-users always was the place for newbies to post, we
> just never had as many newbies as we're getting these days. The
> problem is the frustration of those in the Wine community towards
> newbies; a wine-newbies ML is the wrong solution.
>
I agree with this position. Fragmenting the lists is a *very* bad idea
- especially as it seems to be being proposed solely for the benefit of
the minority who find newbies so objectionable.
David Shaw
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