[Wine] AMD/ATI + Linux + WINE = FAIL... all around.
Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes
alex at thehandofagony.com
Sun May 25 12:10:46 CDT 2008
> Hey all
> I have here two machines...
> Machine A)
> AMD Athlon XP 2500+ CPU
> Nvidia 6800GT GPU
> 1GB DDR 400 RAM
> Ubuntu 8.04-32bit OS
> Machine B)
> Intel Q6600 CPU
> ATI/AMD 3650 GPU
> 2GB DDR2 800 RAM
> Ubuntu 8.04-64bit OS
> Machine A plays Civilization IV and Oblivion just fine, played for an hour
> last night with no issues.
> Machine B gets to the part where it initializes the engine of the game and
> after a brief glimpse of the intro video (if I'm lucky) it crashes to the
> The 6800GT from Machine A was installed in Machine B before I upgraded from
> an E6300 with an AsRock board to the Q6600 on a Gigabyte board. The AsRock
> board had support for both PCI-e and AGP, this Gigabyte board of course
> does not, so there's no swapping the GPU's back where they were. (mobo is
> now at work, CPU is now in server).
> Anyway, point here is that with ATI using the latest drivers (8.5) and the
> very latest version of Ubuntu, and the very latest version of Wine
> (1.0-RC2), all DX games fail to load. Even more troublesome, they all fail
> in the same manner, about 200 lines of err code output to the terminal.
> I have tried regressing the Wine version back to 0.9.54, and that works
> *better* as in some very simple (FR-08) games will load, but they still
> lack any graphics other than a blank screen.
Try an even older Wine version, like 0.9.40
Alexander N. Sørnes
> For the record, yes, the ATI driver is installed correctly. glxinfo|grep
> direct yeilds "Direct Rendering: Yes" or whatever, and fglrxinfo shows that
> I do have the ATI driver installed, with the proper version and release
> Furthermore, all native Linux 3D accelerated apps play flawlessly, getting
> well over 100FPS in Nexuiz and the like.
> And what's more, I'm not alone. I've been searching the web for over a
> month now trying to find some sort of solution short of replacing the GPU
> with an NVidia model, and what I've discovered is that there are many
> others in my situation.
> The frustrating part is that the Community has failed to give an answer. If
> you look at the forum posts where people post nearly the same exact lines
> of error code, there is no response. The posts go un-answered on even large
> forums like ubuntuforums.org for weeks.
> Even more frustrating is the "Blame Game". If you talk to Wine Dev's they
> say it's the ATI driver. If you talk to most anyone other than the WINE
> dev's they say it's WINE's fault.
> No one has come up with anything close to an explanation of where the fault
> lies, or when something will be done about it.
> It's enough to really tick some one off. I have litterally spent over 8
> hours of my time researching this issue and trying to get it to work
> myself. Every ATI driver release I get my hopes up again but for nothing.
> I would just like some kind of response. I'm sick and tired of people
> saying things like "It's those ATI drivers" or my personal pet Peeve "you
> should get Windows".
> I'm not a noob at this either. I have taken a full semester course in Unix
> using Linux, as well as using Linux full-time at home on Four PC's with
> multiple distro's for over 2 years.
> I'd just like some assurance that something will be done about this.
> Thanks, Dan.
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