Andres andres.hans at gmail.com
Wed Nov 19 05:56:21 CST 2008

Winlinnewbie: Opensource software requires reading, if you dont have time
you can:

Install Virtualbox, install you OS, install office 2003. (for daily use, and
you maybe need some .dll for wine)

And in your spare time: install latest wine and try to get to work your
apps. Dont start using the Icons!, just use Terminal to see the output.
"Buena Suerte", Andres
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 1:14 AM, James McKenzie
<jjmckenzie51 at earthlink.net>wrote:

> winlinnewbie wrote:
> > Dimesio
> >   It is indeed bug 16208.  I understand that it is volunteer.
> >
> No you don't.  All OpenSource projects are run by and for volunteer
> development. Wine happens to enjoy a company, CodeWeavers, that is
> paying folks to make improvements to Wine.  Crossover Office and
> Crossover Games are their products, which provide extensions and support
> for $$$.  The same is true of RedHat, SuSe or any other 'commercial'
> distribution of Linux.
> > Austin
> >   I replied 3x to those request asking how I to do it, regarding
> producing a terminal output
> >
> You need to learn to search and read.  We really don't have time to go
> over the same subject again and again, when the Frequently Asked
> Questions portion of WineHQ discusses this in magnificent detail.  And
> I  will repeat:  "Google is your friend".  Learn to use it,
> efficiently.  Many fora will tell you this.  And some will NOT be nice.
> > To both of you
> >   I'm willing to learn, but you crack comment ain't helping anyone
> >
> >
> They are not cracking comments.  They are stating facts.  If you want
> help, you have to meet us half-way.  Go through the FAQ on how to
> generate terminal output, how to select it and how to post it to your
> bug report.  Also, take time to read what is posted here.  It appears
> that you want us to do all of the work and you to reap the benefit.  It
> does not work that way.  Try pulling this with Microsoft and it can get
> very expensive.  When they ask you for information, it is expected that
> you know how to use your computer and how to follow directions.
> Here are directions:
> 1.  Read the FAQ on how to report problems.
> 2.  Read the FAQ on how to generate terminal output.
> 3.  Attach your terminal output to the bug you reported.
> Do not expect an instantaneous fix for your problem.  I don't expect
> such from software I pay for, and I really don't expect such for
> software that is 'free'.  I've learned to work with it as it exists
> today and I do expect it to get better with time.
> Please do not take this as a personal insult.  It is designed to make
> you become a better and smarter computer user.  Sadly, Windows (since
> Windows95) has made every attempt to dumb down the user.  This also
> leads to some fantastic problems and a massive education effort to keep
> people from destroying their computers (Google Storm Worm for an example
> of how stupid computer users can get and the results of their stupidity.)
> Without your inputs, we cannot help you and will not be able to do
> anything.  Think of it this way, go to any mechanic and state "My car
> will not go".  They will ask you a bunch of questions.  If you don't
> answer them, correctly, the mechanic will throw up their arms and state
> "Come back when you have the answers, I have other autos to fix."
> Change that to this project and you can see the level of frustration.
> There are many open problems, with the correct information, that need to
> be fixed.  Not providing appropriate information is at best frustrating,
> at worse belligerent.  You pick which one we think you are. (Hint, it is
> more the latter than the former.)
> Please come back when you can provide us with the information requested
> from you, by multiple people, multiple times.
> James McKenzie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

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