[Wine] what is wine good for?

[dAnIK SeNT]

Hi, jagerhans.

On the contrary, I have succeed with all Windows applications that I tried to 
use with Wine. Of course, it took maybe some days to get used to it for the 
first time, to tweak it and make up some helper scripts, etc. I've ended up 
installing each program into different wine prefix, and maintaining a few 
specifically hacked version of wine binaries for the couple of most 
irritating applications, because each fresh Wine version, while providing 
some new functionality and fixing bugs, inevitable breaks something else. 
It's really OK for such a big project, and if you want stability - you should 
just use separate Wine binaries for each application as I do (with some help 
of simple bash automation scripts), or install frontend like PlayOnLinux 
which do it for you, or just pay to Codeweavers for professional support 
(which I also did just to show my appreciation of their work, because I don't 
use Crossover, being happy with raw Wine).

Really, I receive 0 (zero) wine-related errors or stability issues with my 
packages. Not a single hang, black screen, or something like that in my 
production environment. It works extremely well. Not just for a couple of 
games (Diablo II, Dungeon Siege II, Warhammer 40K Dawn of War: Dark Crusade 
and Luxor 3 to be precise). Not just for simple lightweight applications 
(like IrfanView, UltraISO, AceMoney, mp3DirectCut, rapget, WinHEX and WinRAR 
that you don't like so much - if you don't use it's advanced functionality - 
ok, but that does not mean that everyone also must restrict themselves to 
poor native archivers with mighty command line switches and crippled unusable 
GUIs). But most important of all is that I use wine for some Windows-only 
productivity and ERP software. And I use it at office for production-critical 
tasks. 6 months - and I still have my job, that does mean something :-)

Of course, in my testing prefixes, where I examine each new development 
version of Wine and some weird GIT versions, there is no such thing as 
stability :-) But I think it's fair :-)

Sorry for my English - it's not perfect, I know, but I hope that my message is 
clear nevertheless, and it's "stop trolling and do something useful" ;-)

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 00:35:52 jagerhans wrote:
> well if you think this is trolling youre probably right.
> but. there is a but. i've been using wine since years, from time to time, i
> compiled it, tried various versions both precompiled and source up to the
> present day. now i give up. wine is unusable. period. dont want to say it
> is a piece of crap because of all the hard work that is behind, but it is
> irritating to say the least. seriously guys why waste your time ? i've
> never managed to make something useful with it and i tried hard. nor all
> the geeks i know and theyre a legion. there are excellent native linux apps
> that cover nearly every imaginable need .  if you want wine for a game,
> chances are it wont work at all,  work real bad or transform a game in an
> annoying loss of time. plus, things that worked keep turning back unusable
> with new versions. who cares if winrar works perfectly? only a moron would
> want to emulate it when there are excellent gui compressors for linux. so
> again, after years doing my best to find some use for it i give up now and
> for ever. the very idea looks great, but windows apis will be always one
> mile ahead of you.  so insist with this pointless exercise of patience if
> you please ,  my attempts to do something useful with wine that regularly
> end up in an orgy of horrible swears directed to all the known and unknown
> gods in front of a terminal pounded with stubs are over forever. goodbye. i
> dont feel like saying you thanks because your work is only a total,
> continuous loss of time and processor cycles and all for some lousy windows
> game. ha.

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Best regards,
Sentiabov Danila aka dAnIK SeNT
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