[Wine] wine-users Digest, Vol 138, Issue 3

DARKGuy . dark.guy.2008 at gmail.com
Wed Apr 19 02:13:19 CDT 2017

Note: I'm using gmail, no idea how to set this to plain text. Anyways...

Well speak for yourself, too.

Come on, be serious, it's 2017, again. I highly doubt you're on such a
bandwidth-constrained environment (unless you're in Africa or somewhere
else where there's barely any internet access and you have to deal with a
56kbps modem), where it would make sense.

The argument of "propietary markup languages" (which, to let you know, are
a standard now, including the RFCs that handle this very email conversation
and your beloved mailing list) has no place in this century. I'm happy to
know you have all your emails neat, indexable and searchable. Forums are,
too, if you use a good software. I'm very fond of VBulletin, PHPBB and SMF,
which also have nice search features if you know how to use them.

To be honest, this mailing list has been just spam for me. There are rarely
any useful emails nowadays, just people complaining why something doesn't
work for them and then disappearing without any useful conversation
whatsoever. I've seen more important stuff and useful information in a
forum than in a mailing list. Also, it's public for the world to see, and
you can see all the previous threads if you want. Try navigating a mailing
list browser, now that's an example of a clunky interface. It might look
clean, but you have no idea where you are currently at in the same thread.
You are used to it, 80% of the world isn't, they got better tools.

I'm sorry if this offends you or anyone else in the list, but that's the

Best regards.

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 16 April 2017 at 06:04, DARKGuy . <dark.guy.2008 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's 2017, nobody uses mailing lists anymore, that's why forums and such
> > exist
> Speak for yourself.
> I am on multiple tech mailing lists and have been providing free help
> & support for Ubuntu on its list since the day it launched.
> Life is too short for clumsy clunky web fora with their hideous mess
> of proprietary markup languages, horrid top-quoting, crappy or missing
> threading, bandwidth-squandering graphics and all the other
> time-wasting junk that comes along with them. I refuse to use them.
> They are a crutch for people who don't know how to use email properly.
> I have all my email since 1992 archived and indexed and searchable
> here. It's elegantly sorted, categorised and threaded.
> If WINE goes to forums-only, I won't ever be offering help on WINE
> issues again. Not that I am claiming to be a great expert, but it's a
> useful tool.
> Official developer or  community presence on this list would be more
> use than any fora.
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