[Bug 30259] StarCraft II doesn't start

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Tue Mar 27 12:22:16 CDT 2012


--- Comment #11 from Austin English <austinenglish at gmail.com> 2012-03-27 12:22:16 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #10)
> (In reply to comment #9)
> > (In reply to comment #8)
> > This bug is closed as duplicate not invalid.
> _Now_, but that's not the first thing you did. The first thing you did was to
> mark it as INVALID without really knowing if was invalid or not; IOW without
> knowing if UseGLSL was the issue or not.
> vitaliy-bugzilla at kievinfo.com
> 2012-03-24 22:33:45 CDT    
> Resolution    ---    INVALID
> > What are you complaining about?
> ^- You are marking bugs as INVALID without knowing if they are really invalid.
> > That you did something Wine _explicitly told you_ not to do?
> Where?
> This is what Wine says: 'The GLSL shader backend has been disabled. You get to
> keep all the pieces if it breaks.'
> This didn't cause any issue. It's *totally* and *completely* irrelevant. I know
> because I tried disabling it, as I said in further comments. I should have lied
> and removed that line from the output.

The point, however, is we don't know that immediately. The configuration is
unsupported, it's a waste of time to attempt to find a valid bug in an
unsupported configuration. The burden is on you to attempt the application, in
a _supported_ way, not expect _volunteers_ to spend valuable time trying to
find if there is a valid bug. That time is better spent on well defined bugs.

> > And now you
> > getting a ear full of developers telling you why you shouldn't do it?
> > 
> > Yes, your program has an issue running under Wine. Yes there is a bug about it
> > (bug 29982). Either wait for it to be resolved or fix it yourself for everyone
> > else to enjoy. Wine is an open source project. No one owes anything to anyone. 
> > All people here are volunteers and contribute their own free time, experience
> > and knowledge to the project.
> Yes, that doesn't make your actions any more appropriate.
> Closing bugs for the wrong reasons is still wrong.
> If it makes you happier to close as INVALID all bugs that have UseGLSL
> disabled, go ahead, that doesn't help anybody, specially not the Wine project.
> What you should be doing is *first* make sure UseGLSL is the issue, and *then*
> mark as INVALID.

No, for reasons pointed out beforehand. For similar reasons, if someone reports
a bug and wine complains that their 3d setup is invalid (no direct rendering
support), we ask them to fix their setup first, to rule out that problem.

> But I'm sure you will never accept that there's room for improvement for your
> actions. No, you are perfect.

Everyone has room for improvement, but asking volunteer developers to change
their practices whenever you clearly didn't follow instructions is a bit

Regardless, I'm done with this discussion, I have better uses for my time.


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