today's git broke winetricks gecko :-(

Jacek Caban jacek at codeweavers.com
Thu Nov 12 14:14:27 CST 2009


Dan Kegel wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Jacek Caban <jacek at codeweavers.com> wrote:
>   
>>> as of today, "winetricks gecko" triggers the download
>>> dialog box :-(
>>>       
>> The plan is that winetricks should not be used for installing Gecko. Users
>> really should use packagers. People compiling Wine themselves should read
>> this:
>> http://wiki.winehq.org/Gecko
>> If it's not clear enough, we should fix it.
>>     
>
> Those users are already accustomed to using
> winetricks, so I should probably make 'winetricks gecko'
> implement those steps.  Sadly, that means it will have to
> use sudo, which is kind of ugly.
>
> I'm sad that this change happened; it makes things harder for
> me.  I can't figure out why gecko is needed for, say, cmd.
>
> Why did you make that change?
>
> For now I've reverted the change locally until I
> implement the sudo-ized gecko verb

Downloading Gecko on the first use is technically a pain. It can't work 
correctly unless we'd freeze the whole app. We constantly have bugs from 
users complaining about it they are resolved as invalid. I've even 
considered removing the whole downloader, but after a talk with 
Alexandre we decided to try with the current solution. It wasn't meant 
against winetricks.

The question is why people are using winetricks for installing Gecko. 
Users should not notice this change if both wine and gecko are packaged 
correctly. I also believe that downloading manually Gecko once per a few 
months is not too much pain for developers. And if you have it correctly 
installed in Linux, you don't have to care about it every time you 
create a new wineprefix.

BTW, users use it with no understanding. I've seen things like 
'winetricks gecko ie6' which obviously doesn't make sense. I wouldn't be 
surprised if most of these users already had gecko installed.


Thanks,
    Jacek




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